We aren't talking about those are we.
why are magic mushrooms illegal
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We aren't talking about those are we.
But there are many occasional and frequent drug users who are perfectly functioning members of society, and a bunch of teetotalers who are violent nutjobs.
Using drugs doesn't turn you in to a degenerate, having a predisposition towards being a degenerate does.
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This guy has wrote a book about the influence of shrooms on the history of mankind, he claims that shrooms allowed man to make the leap from animal to intelligent human. He also draws massive correlations with shrooms and ancient germanic shroom festivals and pagan christmas celebrations. Interesting stuff, can't say i necessarily agree with it all.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mushrooms-Mankind-Impact-Consciousness-Religion/dp/1585091510
And?
you don't seem to be getting that things are looked into from more than one direction.
And that highs are different, last different amounts of time and are harder or easier to control.
There's a huge issue in modern society with drugs and working/driving/any position of responsibility.
It's probably quite a bit harder to get people who use mind altering drugs to conform. ie. they become harder to control.
Alcohol serves its use as an anti-depressant, ie. get smashed every weekend and forget about how **** your life is briefly.
Alcohol serves its use as an anti-depressant, ie. get smashed every weekend and forget about how **** your life is briefly.
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Not at all, I just don't agree with the people doing the looking and the directions they pick.
An unbiased scientist's study should hold more weight than the opinions of some people in government who are primarily concerned with staying in power.
I don't understand how they come to the conclusion that you are a danger to yourself or others around you on a trip - more than being "drunk"
Three times in my life ive been a passenger in a car that i know i shouldn't have been had i been more sober. twice when the Driver was drunk once after another "heavy" session. Could have died in all 3 situations accidents could have happened but they didn't. RTAs are probably the most common danger for any intoxicated person ?
Who are these mentalists that take a bit of acid then think they can fly ? Ive never met one and i must have met 100s of people doing stuff.
Ive seen more people on a Friday and Saturday night ****ed up running out in front of buses and beating 7 bells of crap out of each other with scaffolding poles cos of a few Stellas.
Ive never seen 2 people tripping their balls off having a punch up (Even soldiers in those crazy experiments circa 1960 tend to just give up and chill out)
Three times in my life ive been a passenger in a car that i know i shouldn't have been had i been more sober. twice when the Driver was drunk once after another "heavy" session. Could have died in all 3 situations accidents could have happened but they didn't. RTAs are probably the most common danger for any intoxicated person ?
Who are these mentalists that take a bit of acid then think they can fly ? Ive never met one and i must have met 100s of people doing stuff.
Ive seen more people on a Friday and Saturday night ****ed up running out in front of buses and beating 7 bells of crap out of each other with scaffolding poles cos of a few Stellas.
Ive never seen 2 people tripping their balls off having a punch up (Even soldiers in those crazy experiments circa 1960 tend to just give up and chill out)
of course they should and have never said otherwise, what happened to that advisor was deplorable.
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and that is a perfect example of why drugs shouldn't be legalised. the same mentalists who can't act responsibly on a friday night or show some restraint when it comes to consumption of legal substances (alcohol) would have free access to currently illegal ones.
great, they could even mix the two, or three or four but it would be legal.
they would be in a room looking at the curtains too scared to open the front door. not bolstered up on dutch courage
I dont see the difference drunk: trying to kill a stranger or tripping your balls off.
The funny thing is that most drug users have a limited scope of usage, teens to late-30s being the most common range.
Once you have a mortgage and kids, you reassess and almost everyone stops with the drugs.
How many people keep drinking well in to old age though....?
And they are currently prevented from getting them illegally how?
If you live in a city, you can get drugs, it's really that simple.
Same goes for pot, no harm has ever been done. Law makers hate us having a good time I guess.
Here is what made pot illegal. No idea about mushrooms.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNLxoEz2tE4&list=FLv8F9kiUYTaVuPrY5dA2PRQ&index=53
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Where do these shrooms grow? I want to try them.
Is 25-50 okay as a first trip? Do you have to make them into a soup first?
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Actually, forget it, the thought of loosing control of my own thoughts is almost as terrifying as being locked out of my spaceship without air supply - the actual scenario, not the thought.
Is 25-50 okay as a first trip? Do you have to make them into a soup first?
Thnks
Actually, forget it, the thought of loosing control of my own thoughts is almost as terrifying as being locked out of my spaceship without air supply - the actual scenario, not the thought.
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The question I always ask when these debates come up is what difference does it make? It's not exactly difficult getting hold of any narcotics you want in this country.
Making them legal would just allow the government to keep track of the people who take them and the price would go up no doubt as they would be massively taxed. Think yourslef lucky they're not legal.
All drugs do harm from alcholol to amphets the reason why booze and fags are not illegal is because use of them became normalised well before the Victorians and Edwardians started to legislate on all forms of human behaviour.
You guys who want them to be legal should be careful what you wish for as if you're paranoid now about the way the government works you'll be more paranoid if the gov legalises them and you have to sign a drug users register.
Ironic coming from someone who takes drugs. Anyway your point has no baring on mine; booze and fags are already legal and there would be uproar if you had to sign a register to use them, and I already explained one of the reasons why they remain legal. The majority of the country do not give a fying fig about drug users and their rights, you are in the minority and if drug use ever became legal it would be monitored and controlled to benefit the country as a whole - read taxed to hell.
Originally Posted by dazzerd
The question I always ask when these debates come up is what difference does it make? It's not exactly difficult getting hold of any narcotics you want in this country.
Making them legal would just allow the government to keep track of the people who take them and the price would go up no doubt as they would be massively taxed. Think yourslef lucky they're not legal.
All drugs do harm from alcholol to amphets the reason why booze and fags are not illegal is because use of them became normalised well before the Victorians and Edwardians started to legislate on all forms of human behaviour.
You guys who want them to be legal should be careful what you wish for as if you're paranoid now about the way the government works you'll be more paranoid if the gov legalises them and you have to sign a drug users register.
Ironic coming from someone who takes drugs. Anyway your point has no baring on mine; booze and fags are already legal and there would be uproar if you had to sign a register to use them, and I already explained one of the reasons why they remain legal. The majority of the country do not give a fying fig about drug users and their rights, you are in the minority and if drug use ever became legal it would be monitored and controlled to benefit the country as a whole - read taxed to hell.
Abnd this is why people who want drugs legalised will never be taken seriously.
One single Magic mushroom has no effect whatsoever. You need at least 30 and then your not Guaranteed to have a trip you just get the giddy hysterical laughing buzz and strange abstract thought processes.
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