Just out of interests DM, Who would you like as a new manager if wenger was to get the boot? I think he does need to go for Arsenals sake.
Ancelloti would do far better than Wenger, thats for sure, but honestly a lot of our players are just so rubbish now. We've got guys tied to contracts who won't leave, Song isn't going to move down the 2 leagues he should to a 5k a week contract he deserves.
I don't know where Arsenal can go now, Diaby, Theo, Song, Squillaci, Chamakh, we've got so many players on long and expensive contracts who I really doubt we could get rid of at this stage, transfer fee's don't mean a whole hell of a lot, but if you need to shift a 60k a week player to bring in a 60k a week player, we're going to have issues. Thats in terms of becoming GOOD again, I'd take not as crap and that would only take a few key players, and thats obviously got no chance of happening till January.
Ancelloti, Hiddink, I do think Hodgeson would do very well with the defence and organising them, Moyes potentially, though not convinced he'd be up to bringing in the right players, the Dortmund manager seems to be doing very well, organised, flowing attacking football, gathering a fairly cheap young squad.
In terms of who could make Arsenal great and compete for titles, I don't know, in terms of who could stop the absolute slide Arsenal is in, get a list of managers, put it on the wall, throw a dart and you've got a pretty damn good shot of finding a better manager right now.
I mean one thing Wenger could quite simply do is recognise the defence has problems, bring in a new defensive coach.... watch the defence improve, he won't even do that.
We haven't had the hardest start, Blackburn Newcastle and Swansea? West brom are a point below us, conceded less than half the goals, having played Chelsea/Utd/Stoke already, but they also didn't look terrible against any of those three teams, they were narrow losses and West brom played well.
We've played worse teams, and looked awful playing them, thats the problem.
Actually, I'd happily, very very happily take Hughes, fire Wenger tonight and bring in Hughes, he made Fulham solid offensively and defensively(when they had their strikers back they looked very dangerous). He can sort out a defence, he'll play good attacking football if he has a team capable of it(city/fulham). We could do much much worse than take Hughes on a contract to the end of the season, at the moment I'm not sure who we could get with transfer window gone and most managers in jobs for the moment.