*** The Official Diablo III Thread ***

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Shamikebab said:
There is no cheating in a single player game. Can't understand why they didn't split it:

Ladder: Current system, always online, server side, no cheating
Single Player : offline, characters can't go online, do what you want including pausing.

Surely that is the blatantly obvious non **** people off move?
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They didn't split it because everything is handled by Blizzards server, mobs, NPCs etc. This is for security reasons and has caused problems for those trying to crack/hack the game. The only way around it is to create a sandbox (virtual world created by a user) to host everything.. it won't happen for a long time and even then it won't be through battle.net so dupes/hacks etc shouldn't happen.

The ladder and single player bits you mention are what happend in Diablo II.

Sin_Chase said:
This would be the best compromise HOWEVER if Sin_Chase was a Blizzard Dev:

Online Chars Online ONLY
Single Player Chars are Single Player Only
Online Chars can be copied down to a single player file (ONE WAY ONLY)

The latter could be done ad-hoc/on request or one can maintain a local mirror copy of an online char that gets updated when online. If you did any progress with it however you would not be able to copy that back online.

The only reason I can see them forcing online only is not having to release 'Character Construction' to a local file. This makes it significantly harder to train a character I imagine, how can you train something when you have 0 data to work from? No save game/character raw data is ever exposed to the local system.
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Online only is for the reason I talked about above, its security. If there was an offline version the games NPCs, Chars, etc etc would be stored on your computer, this would make the game easy to create hacks/patches and so on.

Check out http://diablo.incgamers.com/ and browse the Diablo III beta forum, this is a large thread about a group of people trying to crack the game. They've released a patch where you can create a fixed char and enter the world, but the NPCs, Monsters etc are not there - because its handled on Blizzards end.

I'm not going to pretend I understand everything and all the reasons for it because I don't, but from what I've read (not just Blizzard PR info) I get the impression its a good move.

The only issue with it all is what a few of you point out, the exclusion of offline mode.

I also agree that we shouldn't rely so much on the internet to play games, but these days I would hazard a guess that most people are connected online these days (those with a Computer).

Sorry for the long post!
 
FoxEye said:
Agree with the anti-cheat thing. Cheating in games is low, and I'm all for getting rid of it.

As for no pause, perhaps you can simply gate back to town before going AFK.
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That's a good point. It takes about 1 second in D2 to TP back to town so if the doorbell, phone or anything goes simply just back to town and you're sorted.

I'm assuming D3 will have a similar system of getting to and from areas so certainly isn't going to be a gamebreaker.
 
Course the real reason they're putting so much store into being online and secure isn't to stop duping and cheating so you can have a better play experience, it's so that duping and cheating doesn't stop them making money selling you overpowered items.
 
Diablo on the Playstation was actually a good game for it time. If they add 360 pad support to Diablo 3 to complement the keyboard & mouse for interface use, I would be very happy.

Torchlight XBLA is proof that a gamepad seriously works really well with this genre.


Sleepery said:
Course the real reason they're putting so much store into being online and secure isn't to stop duping and cheating so you can have a better play experience, it's so that duping and cheating doesn't stop them making money selling you overpowered items.
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You clearly have no idea what you're talking about, Blizzard isn't selling anything apart from the game itself. The players control the market, not them.
 
KNiVES said:
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about, Blizzard isn't selling anything apart from the game itself. The players control the market, not them.
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And Blizzard take a cut of every transaction. They control the drop rate, therefore they control the market.
 
Sleepery said:
Course the real reason they're putting so much store into being online and secure isn't to stop duping and cheating so you can have a better play experience, it's so that duping and cheating doesn't stop them making money selling you overpowered items.
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Rubbish. I'd hope they'd stop duping and cheating even without the AH. It was a massive problem in D2 and devalued the effort that legitimate players put into the game.

People buying and selling items would happen with or without the RMAH. Blizz may be taking a small portion of the results, but also it's offering the people that are willing to part with cash an environment free from the scams and fraud that were rife in the 3rd party market on D2..
 
Sleepery said:
And Blizzard take a cut of every transaction. They control the drop rate, therefore they control the market.
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They take a flat rate, and the first few transactions every month are free. The drop rates aren't even controlled, they're given a certain % chance right from the get-go and it will always stay that way, unless Blizzard announces that certain drop rates needed changing (which is extremely rare)

If you want to moan about features that are stopping Diablo 3 from becoming the mess that 2 was, that's fine. But at least try to look like you know what you're talking about.
 
That's kind of my whole point, Diabo 2 - no RMT and a complete hackers paradise. D3, RMT and massive controls over everything. But you don't seem to be able to have a discusson on the matter without being agressive and insulting, so I'll leave it there.
 
Diablo 3 Delayed :(

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We commonly use the term “soon” when referring to Blizzard releases, because we know that no matter how hard we’re working to reach a target, we’re not going to compromise and launch a game before it’s ready. For Diablo III, we were aiming to launch by the end of 2011. As we’re announcing globally today, our new target for the game is early 2012.

While this news might not be a complete surprise, I know that many of you were hopeful that Diablo III would ship this year. We were too. However, this week we pulled together people from all of the teams involved with the game to decide whether we felt it would be ready before the end of December, and we grudgingly came to the conclusion that it would not. Ultimately, we feel that to deliver an awesome Diablo sequel that lives up to our expectations and yours as well, we should take a little more time and add further polish to a few different elements of the game.

The upside of today’s announcement is that we will be running the beta test longer than we initially planned, which will allow us to invite more of you who have opted in.

For those taking on the Diableard challenge, we salute you -- and now fear for your well-being and personal hygiene. We hereby issue an official reprieve to all Diableard participants, including Blizzard employees, if you want to trim or otherwise manage the lower half of your face. We’d still love to see your beardly achievements, and we look forward to seeing more of your efforts as we move into 2012, but not to the detriment of your workplaces and significant others.

Thank you everyone for your support and anticipation for Diablo III. We’re still moving ahead at full pace, and we’ll be keeping you fully informed of any news and developments here at Diablo3.com, including the specific release date when the time comes, so stay tuned.

-Mike Morhaime

http://www.diablofans.com/blizz-trac...763/diablo-iii
 
I'd rather they get it right than rush it out in time for xmas. Hopefully more of us well get into the beta now that it's been extended. On the bright side plenty of other good releases this quarter to keep us busy :)
 
Even though it's taking forever to come out I'm still really looking forward to it. I'm just a bit worried that by the time it's out it might look very dated
 
Looking forward to it as well, and I am actually pleased with Blizzard for pushing the release date further on. There are taking this game seriously to provide an excellent game for us. They will as well release more beta keys to the public to comprehend that delay.

At least for me Dota 2 and Starcraft 2 will keep me busy till then :D
 
Whilst I was always hoping for a 2011 release, it never seemed likely.

Like Valve do, Blizzard have always had a "when it's ready" attitude, and I salute them for it. A lot of mediocre games could become superb if their developers and publishers took the same approach.
 
FragnaticDeath said:
Looking forward to it as well, and I am actually pleased with Blizzard for pushing the release date further on. There are taking this game seriously to provide an excellent game for us. They will as well release more beta keys to the public to comprehend that delay.

At least for me Dota 2 and Starcraft 2 will keep me busy till then :D
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Dota2 not out till 2012
 
Bah...for a brief moment I thought I had an invite in to the BETA!

Turns out it was a scam email asking me to 'confirm' my password. Yeah..nice try! :rolleyes:
 
yeh I suppose the "it's ready when it's ready" attitude is good because there's nothing worse that playing a game and thinking either it doesn't feel finished or that this game would be great if......
 
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