AMD Bulldozer Finally!

[Martini1991]

^ Just price/performance, iirc sandy bridge is better in every way except price.

Price/performance is subjective depending on CPU's use.

AMD are in trouble.

The only way for them to rescue the situation is to play the "bang for buck" game again.

Which Intel has only gotten better in. Intel could just drop prices. They probably won't like.

 

[pmc25]

I'll repeat again, AMD are releasing new code to be inserted into BIOS releases every couple of days or so.

Meanwhile, the trolls will continue to ignore this.

 

[Martini1991]

I'll repeat again, AMD are releasing new code to be inserted into BIOS releases every couple of days or so.

Meanwhile, the trolls will continue to ignore this.

Yes, because they're going to let the reviews be gimped aren't they on a product that's been delayed this long?

No one's denying or ignoring it, we're looking at what's there, not some magical updates.
You're choosing to ignore what's there.

 

[Jokester]

They've been doing that for months, yet here we are 3days before launch and we're still seeing the same things.

 

[Martini1991]

They've been doing that for months, yet here we are 3days before launch and we're still seeing the same things.

Exactly.
It's kind of funny that looking at results is "trolling"

 

[Helios1234]

I'll repeat again, AMD are releasing new code to be inserted into BIOS releases every couple of days or so.

Meanwhile, the trolls will continue to ignore this.

Code for what exactly? And do you have a source we don't know about?

 

[zoomee]

AGESA code for the BIOS mate. Think they're hoping on some miracle cure.... we shall c

 

[gareth170]

It's not going to change come NDA lift

once the NDA lifted we'll know for sure which results are true , (if any).

 

[Martini1991]

AGESA code for the BIOS mate. Think they're hoping on some miracle cure.... we shall c

Zoomee in seemingly anti BD post shocker.

once the NDA lifted we'll know for sure which results are true , (if any).

So, denial basically ?

 

[zoomee]

Zoomee in seemingly anti BD post shocker.

lol! - Even I'm beginning to doubt it but hey- its first gen, so I might just skip this one tbh mate.
Their working soo hard on the CHV BIOS - I don't think us CHIV owners will get the same love, and theres no way in hell I'm gunna change my CHIV for a measly 0.2% upgrade

 

[Martini1991]

lol! - Even I'm beginning to doubt it but hey- its first gen, so I might just skip this one tbh mate.

That's still denial .
As Intel aren't going to halt on behalf of AMD's next iteration.

 

[pmc25]

Yes, because they're going to let the reviews be gimped aren't they on a product that's been delayed this long?

No one's denying or ignoring it, we're looking at what's there, not some magical updates.
You're choosing to ignore what's there.

It's a FACT that they're continually releasing new code. You and others continually ignore this and continue to spread the fud. What happened to waiting until the NDA expires for reputable reviews, hmm?

Various people with press kits around the web have stated that for the CHV, there are 3 beta BIOS - all of which were released very recently ... the latest one, late on Friday. It was also stated that the latest one improved performance significantly across the board. The leaked reviews on CHVs do not use this BIOS. The leaked reviews on other boards most probably do not use latest either. More revisions are expected.

I doubt if it's intentional as some people are saying (though early engineering samples may have been intentionally crippled), rather that management said it was launching and their coders are scrambling to finish optimising everything. Bad publicity, sure ... but everything points to this NOT being final performance.

 

[Martini1991]

It's a FACT that they're continually releasing new code. You and others continually ignore this and continue to spread the fud. What happened to waiting until the NDA expires for reputable reviews, hmm?

Various people with press kits around the web have stated that for the CHV, there are 3 beta BIOS - all of which were released very recently ... the latest one, late on Friday. It was also stated that the latest one improved performance significantly across the board. The leaked reviews on CHVs do not use this BIOS. The leaked reviews on other boards most probably do not use latest either. More revisions are expected.

I doubt if it's intentional as some people are saying (though early engineering samples may have been intentionally crippled), rather that management said it was launching and their coders are scrambling to finish optimising everything. Bad publicity, sure ... but everything points to this NOT being final performance.

Perhaps, but it's not going to go from meh to flipping brilliant with a BIOS update.

You choose to ignore what is shown. We've never chosen to ignore updates, we know there will be updates, we simply doubt the "SIGNIFICANT PERFORMANCE INCREASE"

EDIT : Beta BIOS, my bad yo'.

 

[pmc25]

Pointless arguing, this is getting dull.

For the people who continually ask what NDAs are for ... this is precisely one of the reasons why. Some people have breached that, and now the **** hits the fan because they've published results on non-final setups.

Anyway, I'm out.

Edit: There have been THREE revisions since the BIOS you mention above. Now do you understand?

 

[Martini1991]

Pointless arguing, this is getting dull.

For the people who continually ask what NDAs are for ... this is precisely one of the reasons why. Some people have breached that, and now the **** hits the fan because they've published results on non-final setups.

Anyway, I'm out.

No, this is what happens when you ship a product that doesn't meet expectations.

 

[gareth170]

This is what the latest CH V update is ;

Crosshair V Formula 0705 BIOS
1. Improve memory compatibility
2. Improve system stability
3. Fix USB 7/8 not work issue
4. Fix system may hang when use with Adaptec ASR-5805 Raid card
5. Add Spanish and Russian to BIOS steup.
6. Support new CPUs. Please refer to our website at: http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?SLanguage=en-us


I don't see "EPIC PERFORMANCE INCREASE"

he means 9905 beta

 

[Martini1991]

he means 9905 beta

Fair enough.
But if it was a case of BIOS updates, they'd delay a few weeks or whatever.

 

[modez]

Perhaps, but it's not going to go from meh to flipping brilliant with a BIOS update.

You choose to ignore what is shown. We've never chosen to ignore updates, we know there will be updates, we simply doubt the "SIGNIFICANT PERFORMANCE INCREASE"

This is what the latest CH V update is ;

Crosshair V Formula 0705 BIOS
1. Improve memory compatibility
2. Improve system stability
3. Fix USB 7/8 not work issue
4. Fix system may hang when use with Adaptec ASR-5805 Raid card
5. Add Spanish and Russian to BIOS steup.
6. Support new CPUs. Please refer to our website at: http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?SLanguage=en-us


I don't see "EPIC PERFORMANCE INCREASE"

So what get over it. Your posting are getting boring.

 

[Martini1991]

So what get over it. Your posting are getting boring.

And you're boring .

Edit: There have been THREE revisions since the BIOS you mention above. Now do you understand

I understand there's been BIOS updates, but that doesn't mean it's made the CPU brilliant, if it was the case, the CPU's wouldn't have been shipped in current condition.

 

[gareth170]

Fair enough.
But if it was a case of BIOS updates, they'd delay a few weeks or whatever.

why

its like releasing a graphic card, sometimes u don't see the full performance till new updates come