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6970 vs 570
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Save yourself some money and get a 6950 2GB mate, not a lot of performance difference between the 6970 and 6950.
570 is a viable option but less VRAM if that concerns you?
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/293?vs=292 - Comparison between 6950 and 6970 maybe 4 FPS in most games at high res? Not worth £40 more tbh.... £10 per FPS increase your paying!
Is this to update your current rig?
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/303?vs=292
Take a look at those benchmarks btw, you have 5850's in Xfire more powerful than a single 6970.
570 is a viable option but less VRAM if that concerns you?
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/293?vs=292 - Comparison between 6950 and 6970 maybe 4 FPS in most games at high res? Not worth £40 more tbh.... £10 per FPS increase your paying!
Is this to update your current rig?
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/303?vs=292
Take a look at those benchmarks btw, you have 5850's in Xfire more powerful than a single 6970.
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Absolute nonsense!:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?aq=f&gcx=c&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=nvidia+driver+problems
http://www.google.co.uk/search?aq=0...ourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=ati+driver+problems
As above get a 2GB 560/6950(there's nothing in it really) and save the cash, they are both very overclockable!
Although I generally advise people to stick with what they know, in your case ATI.
But 6950 stocks are drying up, which probably means it's replacement is about 4 weeks away. It might not be the high end ATI cards that are coming out but the midrange cards will probably be performing at 6970 speeds for less cash.
As above your current crossfire setup will outperform a single card most of the time anyway.
Right thanks for the advice folks.
Should have probably said that this isn't advice for me but for my brother. Happy with my 5850's atm.
Basically he doesn't wan't to build his own pc atm so he is looking at this with a few slight changes to the MB, case and PSU.
As for ATI vs Nvidia drivers i havent really had any issues apart with my ATI drivers apart form the lack of Crossfire support on new games.
As for a 6950 or 560 he has it in his budget to go a little higher than these and with more demanding games such as BF3 now out i though he may aswell go a little higher.
Should have probably said that this isn't advice for me but for my brother. Happy with my 5850's atm.
Basically he doesn't wan't to build his own pc atm so he is looking at this with a few slight changes to the MB, case and PSU.
As for ATI vs Nvidia drivers i havent really had any issues apart with my ATI drivers apart form the lack of Crossfire support on new games.
As for a 6950 or 560 he has it in his budget to go a little higher than these and with more demanding games such as BF3 now out i though he may aswell go a little higher.
Tell him to get the IceQ X PLUS then and put the saved cash towards the Crucial M4 ssd.
If the ssd replaces the 500Gb hd though, tell him to buy it separately.
Note that the 560 used is probably 1GB, the 2GB version probably performs about the 6950 mark.
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Absolute nonsense!:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?aq=f&gcx=c&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=nvidia+driver+problems
http://www.google.co.uk/search?aq=0...ourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=ati+driver+problems
As above get a 2GB 560/6950(there's nothing in it really) and save the cash, they are both very overclockable!
Although I generally advise people to stick with what they know, in your case ATI.
But 6950 stocks are drying up, which probably means it's replacement is about 4 weeks away. It might not be the high end ATI cards that are coming out but the midrange cards will probably be performing at 6970 speeds for less cash.
As above your current crossfire setup will outperform a single card most of the time anyway.
Sorry but that google search means nothing...
And yes the 6950 is of much better value.
Just like this one means nothing:
Absolute nonsense, they both are as good/bad as each other having owned both!
We install/uninstall countless programs which break other things in our system, PEBKAC is to blame 90%+ of the time imho, Iv'e been there shouting at the screen countless times only to find 9/10 it's been my fault.
I am under no illusion either that there can be driver problems too, it's just easier to blame Ati/Nvidia when something's wrong than blame ourselves!
We could be here all day pointing out Nvidia has this fault, Ati has that fault, but neither is better/worse than the other.
You only have to go to the Battlefield 3 thread in the PC games sections to see that ATI have crappy drivers. Loads of people in there comparing which drivers actually worked. The simple fact is a lot of people see ATI for having crappy drivers and threads like that just back that up.
And Nvidia don't have 'crappy' drivers for BF3?
Dice brought out a massive patch on release day that broke both sets of drivers.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18333423
It's a mixed bag with drivers at the moment regarding BF3, or do you fail to see the comments regarding people rolling back Nvidia drivers, stuttering etc?
Dice brought out a massive patch on release day that broke both sets of drivers.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18333423
It's a mixed bag with drivers at the moment regarding BF3, or do you fail to see the comments regarding people rolling back Nvidia drivers, stuttering etc?
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I see a hell of a lot more problems with ATI.
All my friends that have had problems have been because of ATI.
I have no doubt that some people will have had probs with Nvidia.
But again, I see people complaining about ATI drivers a hell of a lot more than I do Nvidia.
All my friends that have had problems have been because of ATI.
I have no doubt that some people will have had probs with Nvidia.
But again, I see people complaining about ATI drivers a hell of a lot more than I do Nvidia.
6970 : more memory, much better texel rate re : filtering like AF, slightly higher memory bandwidth.
570 : much less of a performance hit when AA applied (pixel rate), lower power consumption iirc, generally quieter and smaller, better minimums and average frame rates more often that not.
At the OP's res I'd say the 2gb of vram isn't really worth considering as a strength. Throw of a coin really, 570 myself.
570 : much less of a performance hit when AA applied (pixel rate), lower power consumption iirc, generally quieter and smaller, better minimums and average frame rates more often that not.
At the OP's res I'd say the 2gb of vram isn't really worth considering as a strength. Throw of a coin really, 570 myself.
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Still not wearing it!
'I see a hell of a lot more problems with Nvidia.
All my friends that have had problems have been because of Nvidia.
I have no doubt that some people will have had probs with ATI.
But again, I see people complaining about Nvidia drivers a hell of a lot more than I do ATI.'
It could be so easy to write that too.
It just so hapens that both driver comments comes from Nvidia owners
!
If Nvidia bring out a cheaper card than AMD at my pricepoint the next time I upgrade, that's what I'l buy!
All this their 'drivers are rubbish' etc. is total nonsense, as quoted above, if they were remotely as bad as some people in here say they are, NO ONE would buy them!
Do you honestly think Samsung, Sony, Acer, HP, etc would be using ATI cards with all the so called problems?
I very much doubt it.
'I see a hell of a lot more problems with Nvidia.
All my friends that have had problems have been because of Nvidia.
I have no doubt that some people will have had probs with ATI.
But again, I see people complaining about Nvidia drivers a hell of a lot more than I do ATI.'
It could be so easy to write that too.
It just so hapens that both driver comments comes from Nvidia owners
!I don't care for AMD/Nvidia, they sure as hell don't care for us, they just want our cash.
I used to be like you, I've been using computers from the ZX81 days onwards(I'm getting old in the tooth now
Now it's been 3 series of AMD cards purely for BBFB or out 6 months earlier!
If the 2GB's 560's were out at the same time as my 6950's and they didn't have the unlocking ability and I didn't already have a £40 cooler from my 5870, I would have bought them for the Physx!
If Nvidia bring out a cheaper card than AMD at my pricepoint the next time I upgrade, that's what I'l buy!
All this their 'drivers are rubbish' etc. is total nonsense, as quoted above, if they were remotely as bad as some people in here say they are, NO ONE would buy them!
Do you honestly think Samsung, Sony, Acer, HP, etc would be using ATI cards with all the so called problems?
I very much doubt it.
Back to the point get a 6950 and put the saved money towards an SSD mate.
This thread didnt start out as a flame war for drivers...
Both Nvidia/ATi have problem, but they both work 99% of the time otherwise there wouldnt be competition.
Trust me 6950 is the option to go for and you will see more improvement with an SSD than 4fps in a game from the 6970
This thread didnt start out as a flame war for drivers...
Both Nvidia/ATi have problem, but they both work 99% of the time otherwise there wouldnt be competition.
Trust me 6950 is the option to go for and you will see more improvement with an SSD than 4fps in a game from the 6970
Still not wearing it!
'I see a hell of a lot more problems with Nvidia.
All my friends that have had problems have been because of Nvidia.
I have no doubt that some people will have had probs with ATI.
But again, I see people complaining about Nvidia drivers a hell of a lot more than I do ATI.'
It could be so easy to write that too.
It just so hapens that both driver comments comes from Nvidia owners
If Nvidia bring out a cheaper card than AMD at my pricepoint the next time I upgrade, that's what I'l buy!
All this their 'drivers are rubbish' etc. is total nonsense, as quoted above, if they were remotely as bad as some people in here say they are, NO ONE would buy them!
Do you honestly think Samsung, Sony, Acer, HP, etc would be using ATI cards with all the so called problems?
I very much doubt it.
From MY experiences and MY opinion, ATI are worse.
Get a 570 OP.
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GTX570 
'However it would be of great help to us if anyone who is facing this problem can send us their graphics card to diagnose internally at our Santa Clara office since the cards we have been tested so far do not seem to show the TDR issues end users are reporting in this forum. We can pay for shipping both ways and I can probably get some free game codes to offer you for your time. Please PM if you would be willing to do so. You must be in the USA however since international shipping can complicate things.'
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In case you were wondering it's the Timeout Detection & Recovery problem (display stopped responding but has successfully recovered) that's plaguing 560 owners with P/Z67 boards.
As I keep saying they both have their problems in MY experience and in MY opinion one still isn't any better than the other, these things happen!
They both have their problems and AMD drivers aren't terrible any more... and neither are nVidia drivers flawless... but to say they are both of the same quality is also really inaccurate.
Resorting to using google to try and backup a point like that also shows how desperatly your scraping the barrel to defend AMD.
Resorting to using google to try and backup a point like that also shows how desperatly your scraping the barrel to defend AMD.
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Im running a 6950 > and its brilliant. Mate has a 580 and mine is running close to his on bf3 ultra AA off the usual etc
In terms of driver issues....i have had none never done CF though so cant comment on that.
Personally save the cash and get a 6950!
In terms of driver issues....i have had none never done CF though so cant comment on that.
Personally save the cash and get a 6950!