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TNT2 all the way !
This is one of those rare instances where I agree with Drunkenmaster. Take 'GTX 680' or 'GTX 780' as a metaphor for the 'Kepler GTX 580'. Arguing over the name is the very definition of arguing over semantics.
Well since the 9th they haven't, and there's no sign of it yet, and if it's going to be 2gb as rumoured then it won't be, and they still own't have a faster gpu. Educated folks buy gpu's based on benchmarks, hence their importance, and tbh, 2gb in most stressful benchmarks, especially the 2560x1440 res benches isn't enough.
The 7970 has wiped the floor with the 580 and still has enough in reserve to beat a 590 when overclocked - This is what worries Nvidia.
Again, Can you stop trying to justify your spend. If you wanted a new toy, cool enjoy it. I would like to have a play around with one but I think I will wait and see what Nvidia offer as what I have now does fine.
Has the 7970 wiped the floor with the 580, I dont think it has personally.
Can you link the article that has the comments from Nvidia about how worried they are?
As I said in another thread, I've never seen over 1.8gb on my 7970 in bf3/64 player servers
The 7970 has wiped the floor with the 580 and still has enough in reserve to beat a 590 when overclocked - This is what worries Nvidia.
As I said in another thread, I've never seen over 1.8gb on my 7970 in bf3/64 player servers
7970 definitely isn't overkill though at that res, however the vram is a bit. I can't max everything out and maintain +40fps in all instances on a B2K/64 player server @1080p (particularly gulf of oman).
I agree that Nvidia need a 3gb flagship card minimum to stay in the high res game though, that much is clear otherwise it'll be AMD all the way.
You should have used inverted commas instead of quotes.
Well since the 9th they haven't, and there's no sign of it yet, and if it's going to be 2gb as rumoured then it won't be, and they still own't have a faster gpu. Educated folks buy gpu's based on benchmarks, hence their importance, and tbh, 2gb in most stressful benchmarks, especially the 2560x1440 res benches isn't enough.
The 7970 has wiped the floor with the 580 and still has enough in reserve to beat a 590 when overclocked - This is what worries Nvidia.
Where is their 7970 beating card right now? Oh it's not ready? Ok.Nv has and alwasy will have the fastest single gpu by any means regardless of heat, noise, price its what they do best...
Where is their 7970 beating card right now? Oh it's not ready? Ok.
So what you're saying is, AMD currently have the fastest single GPU by any means regardless of heat, noise and price, while also being better value for money than the GTX580 AND more efficient?
So what's Nvidia up to these days? Making Tegra 4?
When NVIDIA builds its flagship there can be little doubt that they will beat AMD soundly. And this is a reasonable assumption to make because NVIDIA has done precisely this over the last several generations. In fact, if anything, AMD maintaining the performance crown would be an upset rather than the norm.
Imo, the 7970 beats the 6970 "soundly" and is the leap to be expected, yes we can look back at past GPUs and find exceptions. Nvidia to beat AMD soundly, thats not a safe or reasonable assumption to make. Imo, the leaps now will be less significant then they where in the past, the technology has more then matured and is just being slowly refined.
Im sure the Nvidia will be just as quick if not slightly quicker, but lets keep things in perspective.
Nvidia hold the crown for high end
AMD hold it for low end.
They both fight for mid range
Simple as