Messi is just more suited to the game of football and also team sports. That's why he would do better anywhere, goals aside
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Messi is just more suited to the game of football and also team sports. That's why he would do better anywhere, goals aside
Messi wouldn't be playing Wolves, Bolton & Wigan every week though would he. Look at it this way, Valencia the third best side in La Liga only just managed to progressed past Stoke over two legs and that's Stoke. Put Valencia in a two legged tie with Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea or Liverpool and I'm pretty confident that everyone of the English sides would progress (in fact look how poor Valencia were against Chelsea in the group stage at Stamford Bridge)
Europe this season for the English sides was a freak one off as well.
There's absolutely no evidence that the Prem is stronger than La Liga, it's fair to say the gap between Barca + RM and the rest of La Liga is far bigger than the gap between our top teams and the dross. But as a league, overall, the Prem is pretty ******* dire at the moment
Weird comparison. Chelsea failed to beat Stoke early on, Spurs got beat by them as did Liverpool, Man U drew with them too?
So Valencia would beat our top four going by that
Weird comparison. Chelsea failed to beat Stoke early on, Spurs got beat by them as did Liverpool, Man U drew with them too?
So Valencia would beat our top four going by that
How would they?
Valencia only just managed to beat Stoke correct? Stoke are by no means one of the best sides in the league correct? The fact that they only just managed to beat Stoke tells the story of how strong our league is if the third best side in La Liga can only just beat our 9th best side. Looking at the La Liga table would the likes of Osasuna & Rayo Vallecano (7th & 8th respectively) stand any chance whatsoever against the likes of Tottenham & Arsenal in a two legged game? Of course they wouldn't. They'd get comfortably beat.
Like I said earlier this season we saw how the best of the rest Valencia faired against a pretty poor Chelsea side, they were comfortably beaten.
Your justification for believing that the Premier League is stronger than La Liga is that Valencia only just beat Stoke. Andy's flipped that around and said that Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea and Utd failed to beat Stoke therefore Valencia must be better than those clubs going by your thought process. Simple
Your justification for believing that the Premier League is stronger than La Liga is that Valencia only just beat Stoke. Andy's flipped that around and said that Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea and Utd failed to beat Stoke therefore Valencia must be better than those clubs going by your thought process. Simple
I know how he's come up with the idea and you're correct using the word 'simple'
I also pointed out how well teams do against Chelsea as well
Blackburn beat Man U.
Stoke beat Blackburn
Valencia beat Stoke.
Valencia are better than Man U.
The EPL is not poor, we have just had a bad year. If City play as well as they can, they could challenge anyone in the world with their team regardless of the opposition. They have 4-5 world class players in their squad that would walk into pretty much any 1st team in the world.
Pretty much everyone in football still says that we have the best league in the world.
Pretty much everyone in football still says that we have the best league in the world.
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Pretty much everyone involved with the premier league says its the best league in the world, pretty much everyone involved in La Liga says that is the best league in the world, Germany, the same, etc, etc.
Premier league quality has been dropping off for the past 5 years top to bottom. The tactics/style of the premierleague has changed a crapload in the past decade, and the general quality of player. Watching Villa probably from 2000-2005, they weren't a great side by the league standards, but they could certainly give the top four a very tough game, an entertaining game. 4th to 8th or so is now full of teams that need extreme luck and the other team playing horribly to get a result, and get beaten by lower teams far to easily.
The bottom teams in the league are nothing short of an embarrassement. Years ago those guys really would be fighting to break the record for least points ever from a season. One of the biggest and worst chances has been mostly teams top to bottom moving from footballers, to athletes, or thugs, physical players who can barely pass but smash into people a lot.
Blackburn beat Man U.
Stoke beat Blackburn
Valencia beat Stoke.
Valencia are better than Man U.
And we're all better than Leeds
And we're all better than Leeds
Leeds beat Crystal Palace
Crystal Palace beat Man Utd
Leeds are therefore better than Man Utd
edit: Does that make them better or worse than Stoke though?
I think he would slaughter everyone single handedly in Italy, would love to see him in the EPL (where he would still be fantastic) not that it will ever happen
even if City bid £150m for him
Iirc his buy out clause at Barca is around £250mill euros...mindm you that was a few yrs ago so could have well went up by now. But yeh City would have FA chance of ever buying him, same with most other teams...perhaps when hes old and not at his best then he would be sold but hes the heart and soul of Barca and has been for a fair few yrs now.
Leeds beat Crystal Palace
Crystal Palace beat Man Utd
Leeds are therefore better than Man Utd
edit: Does that make them better or worse than Stoke though?