That's not good enough for Andy, he needs more proof.
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That's not good enough for Andy, he needs more proof.
Greg. If I say something to you for the hundredth time will you actually listen and let it sink in?
What you see in FPS when caching from the hard drive counts for nothing. It is simply how fast the image is moving on the screen.
I've tried to explain this to you over and over again, but you just don't seem to get it. Why? is it because you feel that I am trying to upset you by targeting Nvidia.
It's getting quite late now, and I am getting tired. So, I will explain this for you one last time in the hope that it may finally sink in.
Just because you see an amount of FPS on a screen does not equate back to a smooth play experience. Tommy posted a graph last night that explained it, explained lags and delays.
FPS are counted on your screen. They do not depict the time it takes your mouse and keyboard presses to relay into the screen and onto the game.
If I have to explain one more time that I would never have sold my GTX 470 if it could run BF3 smoothly I am going to bloody puke.
I sold it because what FRAPS said in the top corner of my screen counted for crap. It was laggy, and trying to aim load and fire the sniper rifle was being hurt by the texture caches from my hard drive. This in turn led to me dying, a lot. Enough to annoy me enough to want to do something about it.
If you can't grasp that? then I'm sorry mate, because I just can't explain it any more.
lmao yep.
Also this thread was interesting from awhile back.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18333705
Yeah but that movie has like nothing to do with this thread. This thread is about turning off the paging file to see if BF3 will crash as it runs out of vram. That video just some random guy on a 570 playing bf3 at god knows what resolution
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Interesting thread Andy. Would this be the same for other games?
Reason I ask is that I have page filing disabled on my SSD and I run a GTX 260 with 896mb of video ram. I am playing oblivion with lots of texture packs and I downloaded GPU_Z for the first time yesterday as I had never monitored my graphics card before and was interested.
What I found was that my video ram was maxed all the time but with vsynch on my fps was holding at about 30fps at all times. My oblivion does crash sometimes when entering a new area and once every 1/2 hour to an hour the game can stutter and crash but in general it seems that I can play the game for a long time with my vram maxed and no page filing, it doesn't seem to lead to an immediate crash.
Is there any reason why it doesn't seem to crash immediately? Do you think it is my vram which is causing the crash when they happen? They are not "paging errors" but rather a generic "has stopped working" error.
Reason I ask is that I have page filing disabled on my SSD and I run a GTX 260 with 896mb of video ram. I am playing oblivion with lots of texture packs and I downloaded GPU_Z for the first time yesterday as I had never monitored my graphics card before and was interested.
What I found was that my video ram was maxed all the time but with vsynch on my fps was holding at about 30fps at all times. My oblivion does crash sometimes when entering a new area and once every 1/2 hour to an hour the game can stutter and crash but in general it seems that I can play the game for a long time with my vram maxed and no page filing, it doesn't seem to lead to an immediate crash.
Is there any reason why it doesn't seem to crash immediately? Do you think it is my vram which is causing the crash when they happen? They are not "paging errors" but rather a generic "has stopped working" error.
The latest BF3 patch was released after the thread was posted.
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Here we go again with the school lessons. Mr Kruga asked about a 570...I gave him a vid showing how it copes and not that constant drivel you dish out saying 1GB is not enough.
I have told you time and time again but your ignorance is beyond comprehension.
You insult me by calling me mush. Infact if people don't agree they are all ignorant according to you.
I am sick and tired of your constant lies because many gamers here quite happily play BF3 with a 1GB card or am I lieing? You need help maybe?
Do you realise that the proof has been coming along to back up exactly what I say?
Yet all I have had out of you all day is crap. You started bringing physical memory into the mix (way to not read the OP and miss the point, BTW) and then I post you two pictures of memory usage and explain to you what the OP was about and you shut up?
Don't you find that odd? Don't you also find it odd that all of the evidence posted from people who actually bothered to input constructively in this thread instead of waffling hot air all backs up what I have said?
Do me a favour Greg. Go and find another thread to argue over the 680 and 7970. Because quite frankly mate you're bloody crap at this one. You clearly do not understand what it is you are arguing about.
Maybe one day when you do it will finally sink in.
Yeah but that movie has like nothing to do with this thread. This thread is about turning off the paging file to see if BF3 will crash as it runs out of vram. That video just some random guy on a 570 playing bf3 at god knows what resolution
The guy games on an Acer V223HQV at 1920 x 1080 with Ultra preset.
See the vdeo description for details, you can also check the resolution of the video itself and compare the video with one produced by yourself if you don't trust his results.
Yeah but that movie has like nothing to do with this thread. This thread is about turning off the paging file to see if BF3 will crash as it runs out of vram. That video just some random guy on a 570 playing bf3 at god knows what resolution
I know Andy from old and he will go the long way round to try and prove things...
See what I did there?
Whilst you fill people with lies, I will try and stop you. Please don't tell them that 1GB is not enough to play BF3 when it clearly is.
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I think we should have more results rather than arguements that have been taking place. This is what this thread is about afterall isn't.
Imo this thread has been created to find out whether OP words have truth in them or not i.e. approve or disapprove them.
So we should have more results then we can have bigger picture. So far my results are in agreement with what he said.
Imo this thread has been created to find out whether OP words have truth in them or not i.e. approve or disapprove them.
So we should have more results then we can have bigger picture. So far my results are in agreement with what he said.
Actually, it's how fast the card renders frames per second.
See, I'm not quite sure he's the one that doesn't "get it".
Ah, yes, let your delusions sink in a little more so the whole forum can benefit from them.
Lags and delays? Now it causes network issues as well?
So you're suggesting that playing on a card with less than 1.5GB VRAM introduces... input lag? That's new.
So it's a Purchase Justification Syndrome after all?
Riveting tale, chap.
As I said in my previous post, the latest patch was released after the thread here was made:
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=360411
He has 1GB VRAM and is running without a pagefile BEFORE the patch that fixed the crashing was released. And he has no problems..
Would be nice to see a response to this Andy.
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Mush. Pronounced - moosh. Slang term for mate. I grew up in South London you see.
What's funny there Greg is that you seem to have noticed I was being completely down to earth with you in that post. Hence the multiple
smilies and smile. But don't tell me - I was being ignorant.The only person displaying ignorance here is you. Time and time again I have tried to be patient with you, yet all you do is come back with this wall of ignorance.
All of your posts, all of these pages. Nothing. You've not offered anything.
If you wanted to, you know? do it right? then quite simply put your money where your mouth is. Run the two tests on your 680 and apply some reasonable input into this thread.
I couldn't give two monkeys if you find me ignorant. I couldn't give two monkeys if you don't like me.
If you hate me so much then do me a favour and put me on ignore. Because your constant whining is getting old. Waaah you're ignorant waaah I don't like you.
Eh? where did he mention updates?
He posted that about ten days ago. How do you know he was running it before the patch?
Jesus man, way to assume. No sorry, I've read over it four times now. And even though I am very tired I see no mention of anything you said there.
Do you know how long it takes to run the test? about ten minutes. Amazing how much people will dance around the issue.
Just run the test. If you think I am wrong then that's the way to do it, right?
Run FRAPS, record the FPS. I would find it more interesting if your game doesn't crash because what we don't know is how it affects FPS if it doesn't and you only have 1gb vram.
Do you know how old that is? it's about as old as me being an AMD fanboy. Or me being an Nvidia fanboy.
Do you program your computer to come up with this repetitive nonsense? or do you really have nothing to add?
As I said to Greg. The way to prove me wrong is to run the tests and post your results. Nothing has been set in stone, but right now what we have seen leans heavily toward my suspicions being correct.
Or, are you like Greg? forget all about what was said yesterday and start each day a fresh posting the same old rubbish?
Weird, I thought that was you.
I'm out for now.
Will do the run without pagefile for you if you really need a solid proof (2560x1440, custom preset that I use atm to not run out of vram).
