9yr old attacked because her daddy is a cop

[shoes]

That's pretty disgusting. Fair play to the bloke for keeping his cool, he must be seething after having found out the 'punishment'.

Say what you like about civilised society, progress, liberalism and generally being a pussy, but if you don't think that this person, and I use that in the loosest possible sense, deserves stringing up in public, being beaten to within an inch of their lives and being denied medical treatment afterwards then there is something seriously wrong with you.

 

[RomanNose]

People are seriously overreacting if they think corporal punishment is going to fix a broken teenager. Crime rate is the lowest since the 90s, the criminal system needs to change to reform and not just lock people up. The truth is that this kid is a repeat offender, he should have been fixed before he did this. Look at the way Scandinavian countries treat their criminals, they have very low repeat offenders.

 

[arc@css]

It does seem that the idiots are taking over.

...because they are allowed to, unfortunately.

 

[Merlin5]

People are seriously overreacting if they think corporal punishment is going to fix a broken teenager. Crime rate is the lowest since the 90s, the criminal system needs to change to reform and not just lock people up.

Rubbish. Shootings and stabbings never were as rife in the 90s as now.
Bring back capital punishment I say. And bring these back to publicly humiliate the morons.

 

[RomanNose]

Incorrect merlin
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Violent-crime-rates-UK-1981-to-2007.png

 

[Daze]

I actually thought it was going to be a lot worse than some spit to the face, however, if I were him I would have punched the face off the hooded idiot without doubt.

 

[steve-h]

Well done, that officer - showed some serious restraint.

Next time the (thankfully small in number) '**** tha pigs!!!111oneoneeleven' brigade on here want to rear up, can we point them to this thread?

Not really... this was a case of some idiot assaulting a child. It doesn't really reflect someone who doesn't favour some of what the police do.

 

[Merlin5]

Incorrect merlin
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Violent-crime-rates-UK-1981-to-2007.png

Fine. But gang related crimes, stabbings and shootings have never been as prolific as they are today. Unless you're going to tell me it's no worse than it's ever been but they're just reported more today?

 

[Merlin5]

Do you have anything to back that up, or is it merely your perception?

Not really, hence why I was asking if it's just reported more. But every single day, I hear on the news about another stabbing. I mean it's ridiculous the amount of stabbings being reported, it's relentless.

 

[vintage-x]

Did the person intend to spit in the kid's face? I mean, he could have 'just' been intending to spit on the policeman, but accidentally hit the kid in the face.

Obviously that'd still be bad, but it's a thought that struck me.

Doesn't really matter to be honest. Even if he didn't mean to hit the kid its still bad enough walking up to someone and spitting at them because all they did was what they are paid to do

 

[Abraxaz1]

not sure how the policeman kept his temper, think I would see red mist.
when a ****** knocked my 6 year old niece over without apologizing i had to be restrained by two local boys.

 

[w1lliam]

I would struggle to hold back my actions and he would rightly deserve a beating. But not infront of my daughter....

 

[kwerk]

Incorrect merlin
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Violent-crime-rates-UK-1981-to-2007.png

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2798353/Knife-and-gun-crime-have-been-under-reported-police-memo-admits.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/4312170/Metropolitan-Police-amongst-18-forces-to-have-under-reported-violent-crime-for-10-years.html

 

[Fr0dders]

People are seriously overreacting if they think corporal punishment is going to fix a broken teenager. Crime rate is the lowest since the 90s, the criminal system needs to change to reform and not just lock people up. The truth is that this kid is a repeat offender, he should have been fixed before he did this. Look at the way Scandinavian countries treat their criminals, they have very low repeat offenders.

this youth was merely the younger brother of said repeated offender though.

Just another example of broken britain in which large groups of our society are brought up with no respect for authority.

 

[Angilion]

not sure how the policeman kept his temper, think I would see red mist.
when a ****** knocked my 6 year old niece over without apologizing i had to be restrained by two local boys.

The police deal with the scum of society over and over again, often while said scum are abusing people. They need extraordinary control over their temper or they can't do the job. It's not a normal job, not by a long shot. The police routinely get in the middle of situations everyone else would try hard to avoid - it's part of what the job is. It requires unusual behaviour.

I'm a bit surprised that most coppers aren't at least a bit mental after a while. I think I would be.

 

[Angilion]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...e-been-under-reported-police-memo-admits.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...nder-reported-violent-crime-for-10-years.html

If you read those articles, it's clear that the "increase" you're pointing at is a result of reclassifying crimes, not a result of an increase in the number of crimes.

Scenario: Someone with a knife in their pocket punches someone else.

Before reclassification: Not a knife crime.
After reclassification: A knife crime.

Voila! A big increase in knife crimes.

 

[arc@css]

Poor little girl. I hope she isn't scarred in later life.

 

[Angilion]

Not really, hence why I was asking if it's just reported more. But every single day, I hear on the news about another stabbing. I mean it's ridiculous the amount of stabbings being reported, it's relentless.

It was much worse in the past. Take a look at historical accounts of early Victorian England, especially London. Or go back further and look outside of towns, where it often wasn't safe to travel wthout an armed guard or some other means of protection (e.g. being a poor monk). Even when stealing more than 12p was a hanging offence(*), crime was still more common than it is today.


* Granted, 12p was a lot more then that it is now, but in modern terms it would definitely make stealing a high-end phone a hanging offence.

 

[Merlin5]

It was much worse in the past. Take a look at historical accounts of early Victorian England, especially London. Or go back further and look outside of towns, where it often wasn't safe to travel wthout an armed guard or some other means of protection (e.g. being a poor monk). Even when stealing more than 12p was a hanging offence(*), crime was still more common than it is today.


* Granted, 12p was a lot more then that it is now, but in modern terms it would definitely make stealing a high-end phone a hanging offence.

But the way I see it, youths of the UK today are influenced heavily by the culture of american gang, gun and knife crime that seems to have replicated itself here. Before we know it, it's going to spiral out of control and be as bad if not worse than the pre 20th century britain you refer to. And where is the deterrent? Prison? No, they don't really care. Discipline at school? Lol there's no such thing anymore. Teachers have very little control now and in the event of a trouble making kid needing to be expelled or punished in some other manner, uneducated useless parents side with their little billy instead of backing the school, more than likely threatening the teachers with physical violence.

 

[Threepwood]

I thiink there are far more acts of kindness that happen every day than stabbings tbh. I think they are pretty rare, and that is part of the reason it makes stuff like that newsworthy.