Benefits cheats - do you know any?

the thing is that depression is a much deeper issue. often comes in troughs and peaks.

Apparently "work" makes him depressed, I don't like it much either but some of us just "get on with it" ;)

I have zero empathy when it comes to people with "depression", there are many times in my life where I could have probably just curled up with depression (being made redundant 3 times springs to mind), I guess luckily I just don't have a "depressive" personality.
 
I wouldn't care, even if you shopped them it wouldn't make you pay any less tax, even if you shopped every cheat in the land it still wouldn't make you pay any less tax. Our government would still find a way to waste all that extra money. I wouldn't shop no one or grass on anyone, but that's just me.
 
I've known plenty of people to do odd jobs for cash in hand whilst on the dole. If it's not a regular thing I'm not bothered. In fact I think it's also not illegal providing the income is below a certain amount per annum? I've not looked it up.

I used to live next door to a council/housing association property where the tenant sub-letted the property. He ended up with a fine and was evicted. Oops.
 
I had an ex manager that would slip out of the office every 2 weeks for an hour, same day each time. Small office only 4 of us, we all thought it was a meeting. Turned out he was signing on... JSA.. No one said a word.
 
No, those without the mental capacity to understand depression and just think that anyone signed off with depression should be curled up in a dark corner sobbing all the time, just see it as an excuse.
 
I used to live next door to a council/housing association property where the tenant sub-letted the property. He ended up with a fine and was evicted. Oops.

I think those kind of people are real ******** considering the shortage of property that real* people could be living in.


*real means single mums and Somalian/Afghanistan wide boys.
 
No, those without the mental capacity to understand depression

Hold on there, I just said I don't have any empathy for "depression", I'm more than willing to believe it exists and that people suffer from it, just that on a personal level I find it hard to identify with as I've never suffered from it.

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Growing up in and still living in one of the highest unemployed areas of Manchester, I know many, many people who play the system to get more benefits than they would otherwise be entitled to. However, it isn't like the typical Daily Mail benefit cheat story that you see; these people are still **** poor and scraping to get by. There simply isn't enough work to go around and it is instilled in these people that it is now acceptable to do this.

As an example of why some people that I know have done it:

A close friend of mine was claiming JSA for 6 months at age 19 when he was told he had to attend a compulsory work finding course through the jobcentre. Whilst on the course, low and behold they managed to secure him a job as a window cleaner which he was very grateful for, so he signed off to start work.

What the window cleaner who employed him had managed to hide from both my friend and the jobcentre is that he was only willing to pay him £100 a week for working ~35 hours in all conditions. My friend basically had two options: report the guy to the jobcentre, in which case he would just be let go and have no work whatsoever, or continue to work whilst claiming JSA to boost his income by £50 a week and at least be able to buy enough food and pay some rent. It's a no brainer.

So, yes I know people who cheat the system but when we are talking about them still coming out with only £600 per month for working a 35 hour week, I can't really begrudge them that 'privilege'.
 
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Hold on there, I just said I don't have any empathy for "depression", I'm more than willing to believe it exists and that people suffer from it, just that on a personal level I find it hard to identify with as I've never suffered from it.

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Nice back pedal but no, you didn't:

Apparently "work" makes him depressed, I don't like it much either but some of us just "get on with it" ;)

I have zero empathy when it comes to people with "depression", there are many times in my life where I could have probably just curled up with depression (being made redundant 3 times springs to mind), I guess luckily I just don't have a "depressive" personality.
 
Growing up in and still living in one of the highest unemployed areas of Manchester, I know many, many people who play the system to get more benefits than they would otherwise be entitled to. However, it isn't like the typical Daily Mail benefit cheat story that you see; these people are still **** poor and scraping to get by. There simply isn't enough work to go around and it is instilled in these people that it is now acceptable to do this.

As an example of why some people that I know have done it:

A close friend of mine was claiming JSA for 6 months at age 19 when he was told he had to attend a compulsory work finding course through the jobcentre. Whilst on the course, low and behold they managed to secure him a job as a window cleaner which he was very grateful for, so he signed off to start work.

What the window cleaner who employed him had managed to hide from both my friend and the jobcentre is that he was only willing to pay him £100 a week for working ~35 hours in all conditions. My friend basically had two options: report the guy to the jobcentre, in which case he would just be let go and have no work whatsoever, or continue to work whilst claiming JSA to boost his income by £50 a week and at least be able to buy enough food and pay some rent. It's a no brainer.



So, yes I know people who cheat the system but when we are talking about them still coming out with only £600 per month for working a 35 hour week, I can't really begrudge them that 'privilege'.

Especially when you get some Tory Party donor who has been made a Lord and does 28 days of service out of a total of 15 months despite claiming his £300 a day exspenses who is incidentally a millionaire.
 
I know somebody who has been off work long term with "depression", never seems that depressed when I see him down the pub!!

I know a person who has extra benefits on top of their current benefits for her so called "depression" and spents it on drugs with along with her drug dealing boyfriend. Gets me angry because I know they are just a bunch of dirty chav's with no direction in life:mad:
 
I know a person who has extra benefits on top of their current benefits for her so called "depression" and spents it on drugs with along with her drug dealing boyfriend. Gets me angry because I know they are just a bunch of dirty chav's with no direction in life:mad:

I bet you're on the phone everyday to the relevant authorities about that one, right? Right?
 
I have zero empathy when it comes to people with "depression", there are many times in my life where I could have probably just curled up with depression (being made redundant 3 times springs to mind), I guess luckily I just don't have a "depressive" personality.

My wifes colleague (primary teacher) hung herself in her garage due to severe depression. I think that deserves some sympathy.
 
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