Chinese Grand Prix 2012, Shanghai - Race 3/20
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Surely this makes button the favourite. I'd also love to see MSC on the podium this Sunday.
I'm still yet to believe it actually holds any real world benefits on anything than a car already right at the front.
The Merc might be able to use it to get good grid slots, but then drop back when they don't have it in the race.
Its a one trick pony. I can't see many teams jumping to redesign their entire car just to gain a few grid slots.
The Merc might be able to use it to get good grid slots, but then drop back when they don't have it in the race.
Its a one trick pony. I can't see many teams jumping to redesign their entire car just to gain a few grid slots.
Totally agree
Brilliantly thought out - but for the investment (in changing pannelling all along the car and re-designing the rear /front wings) its not worth it for such a minimal gain) ....obviously worth it for Merc as they didnt pay for the initial designs etc, but for all other teams....I cant see it myself (as I think we both discussed during pre-season testing)
Im sure the same amount of cash can be put to better use for the same / better gains in qualifying
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At last, I get to see a race live 
So why does Hamilton get penalised because of a new gearbox?
I would. He may have a better car now, but I have little faith in his ability to stay out of trouble. Every time he's had a good chance to do well something goes wrong.
So why does Hamilton get penalised because of a new gearbox?
I would. He may have a better car now, but I have little faith in his ability to stay out of trouble. Every time he's had a good chance to do well something goes wrong.
Plus I was talking purely Qualifying performance, not the race, no way MS will win it with the Merc... I'd say Button has to be a pretty sure bet for the win.
In Qualifying MS has been very good, up there with the McLarens in both races so far.
In Qualifying MS has been very good, up there with the McLarens in both races so far.
In a push to make cars more reliable and cheaper the FIA imposed a limit on gearbox usage. They must last for a certain number of weekend (is it still 4?) per car. Changing one before this limit is reached carries a 5 grid place penalty for your next start.
Its a similar deal with engines. They have 8 engines to last the whole season per car. There isn't a concurrent weekends limit like gearboxes, they can swap them in an out each weekend rotating the engines usage, but they can't use more than 8 per season. If they use a 9th unit they take a 10 place grid penalty for the next start, and another 10 place penalty for every subsequent new engine used.
yea like monza last year
Yes, exactly like Monza, where after a few laps Button sailed past Schumacher because Schumacher had munched his tyres.
FIA report about the Merc DRS is here - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98738
My God, FIA in sensible ruling shocker!
I still think their ruling on Lotus's suspension was wrong, but there you go. I'm just hoping this puts the whole sorry saga to bed and we get on with watching their rivals struggle to implement their own versions of the concept.
Agreed.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/17688784
Quote from Brawn:
And Mr Button:
Personally, given how poor Merc have been during races, scoring 1 point from 4 starts, I wouldn't want to spend time developing their system. If I were another team, I would be focusing more on why the McLaren car is so fast and perhaps adopting some of their ideas.
My way of thinking is copy the best car, not the worst.