War with Iran

If your political leaders are backed by defense companies and you aren't using their products they aren't going to be happy. Military equipment has to be exhausted before the government can buy more. Iraq has wound up, Afghanistan is winding up who will the US defense industry sell to now that the US is no longer buying?
 
This isn't really the case though is it? Especially as some people who do not at all mock religion and some who even share your religion have also suggested that your views are somewhat bonkers. The only thing you have to support your views is some rather dodgy interpretation of 1400 year old documents. You then retrofit anything that is even remotely related into your prophecy as "proof".

Well it is the case, not in general but on these forums. Just look at any religion thread? There is even the need to have a sticky at the top reminding some people.

Please point out one person, just one, who shares my religion (Islam) yet believes my views are 'somewhat bonkers' in regards to this topic.

What we regard as proof may be different, I believe my sources are the most authentic whereas you may believe your sources such as CNN, BBC News, or whichever media outlet are more so. The fact remains though, 1400 year old documents as you put it, have enabled people to foresee events before you or those you regard as experts even thought it was possible. When I said Israel will launch a war, you called it conspiracy theory claptrap or words to similar effect, yet after a period of time, Castiel and others start threads to discuss whether Israel will attack Iran, we have numerous news articles suggesting it may happen, but suddenly it is no longer a conspiracy because the 'experts' have only just woken up. They are still lagging far far behind.

Which is all terribely convenient isn't it? Your prophecy will always be just around the corner. How long will need to pass before you even start thinking "Hmm, maybe I was wrong?" 5 years? 10 years? 20 years? Or will you go to your deathbed thinking "Yep, just around the corner, any day now it will all start"?

As I said (and you even quoted me) MANY things can happen which will completely change the big picture. They could happen tomorrow for all we know. The fact of the matter is, things are moving in the direction I suggested rather then going the opposite way, do you accept that since you were the one challenging almost everything I posted?
 
I predict in the next 1400 years there will be war in Central Africa, the Balkans and the Middle East.

(Disclaimer: when I say war I am quite happy to include isolated attacks on a specific objective to suit my interpretive prescience)

I also believe that Chinese and Indian people eat rice and have brown eyes therefore rice makes your eyes go brown, that 9/11 was a demolition job and the planes were photoshopped, and that an all-loving god allows war/famine/disaster because he works 'in mysterious ways'.
 
People need to start thinking of this as a reality, no matter how far fetched it sounds.

If Israel does attack Iran, as I believe it will do which is why I've been saying it for years, it will need to do so on a scale that we haven't seen before and in the process take control of as much of Irans oil as possible. Israel will do so with full US backing, because essentially they are both one and the same ie. the same people who control both countries.

As already pointed out, if they strike Iran, the price of oil will skyrocket and in turn the dollar will collapse, another event which is also not far off now. I believe that a new reserve currency will be introduced which will be based in Jerusalem. Power will return to Israel after over 2000 years, yet the intellectuals of ocuk with their phds will have completely missed the boat, they can't see it coming, they cannot grasp reality in this great age of deception.

As our prophet PBUH said, the unbelievers will never be able to recognise the liar who sees with just one eye. Since he has essentially also blinded most of mankind, he goes undetected. Appearance and reality have switched places as our prophet PBUH warned us. All the hadith are coming true, and will come true. When power finally returns to Israel we will see a man emerge claiming that he is the Messiah and the Jews will accept him. Israel was created for a purpose and it has been armed and protected for a purpose, and it has continued to grow stronger and stronger for a purpose.

You need to stop reading Tom Clancy novels..............?

I have never in all my years of reading worthless tut in GD seen so much drivel in one single post.

Recreational drugs are bad for a reason, they damage your brain !!!!!
 
We live in the western world, its normal to feel too comfortable, as we are 'stable'

200 years ago the USA invaded Canada (and lost)
95 years ago the Russia revolution took place
72 years ago Germany invaded France
22 years ago half of Germany belonged to the USSR

We may be more stable right now than the middle east but declaring the the western world as stable because it has been for a couple of decades or so is a bit of a stretch.

And lets not forget that Iran was looking quite stable until we overthrew their democratic government and installed a pro UK/US dictator that made Gadaffi, Saddam and Kim Jong Il look like nice guys who spent almost 30 years terrorising the country.

And now we complain that their backward... >.>
 
If your political leaders are backed by defense companies and you aren't using their products they aren't going to be happy. Military equipment has to be exhausted before the government can buy more. Iraq has wound up, Afghanistan is winding up who will the US defense industry sell to now that the US is no longer buying?

They don't only buy hardware in the middle of a war you know.


nothing like a good world war to kick start the economy

A war with Iran won't kickstart the economy it will do the complete opposite - it will plunge most of the West into recession once again as the fragile economies simply cannot handle $200+ oil right now.
 
If they all want to kick off a Globalthermalnuclearwar can they wait 30 years or so that I'm too old to care about it?

I don't want to end up like the kid in this ad thanks. :p

 
If your political leaders are backed by defense companies and you aren't using their products they aren't going to be happy. Military equipment has to be exhausted before the government can buy more.
no it doesnt. most of the cost of contracts is based around support and training following a sale. they make their money selling the pieces of equipment that have to get replaced often, for often extortionate prices. parts of things like planes, ships, tanks even ammunition needs to be changed regularly to keep the item functioning. some parts have to be changed every 30, 60, 90 days!

beyond that there is the IP from new technologies and upgrading contracts that are a serious boost to the industry. most of which dont rely on a war being fought at all and thats not even touching on the export side of things, for example if you can explain why two of the most profitable contracts BAE aerospace have tendered have anything to do with iraq or afghan i would like to hear it. (saudi and indian typhoon exports)
 
As I said (and you even quoted me) MANY things can happen which will completely change the big picture. They could happen tomorrow for all we know. The fact of the matter is, things are moving in the direction I suggested rather then going the opposite way, do you accept that since you were the one challenging almost everything I posted?

How exactly is Israel any closer to being the ruling world power today than it was 5 years ago? It isn't. Your prophecy is no closer to fulfilment today than it was last year.
 
Well it is the case, not in general but on these forums. Just look at any religion thread? There is even the need to have a sticky at the top reminding some people.

Please point out one person, just one, who shares my religion (Islam) yet believes my views are 'somewhat bonkers' in regards to this topic.

What we regard as proof may be different, I believe my sources are the most authentic whereas you may believe your sources such as CNN, BBC News, or whichever media outlet are more so. The fact remains though, 1400 year old documents as you put it, have enabled people to foresee events before you or those you regard as experts even thought it was possible. When I said Israel will launch a war, you called it conspiracy theory claptrap or words to similar effect, yet after a period of time, Castiel and others start threads to discuss whether Israel will attack Iran, we have numerous news articles suggesting it may happen, but suddenly it is no longer a conspiracy because the 'experts' have only just woken up. They are still lagging far far behind.



As I said (and you even quoted me) MANY things can happen which will completely change the big picture. They could happen tomorrow for all we know. The fact of the matter is, things are moving in the direction I suggested rather then going the opposite way, do you accept that since you were the one challenging almost everything I posted?

Your parents ruined your brain :( the end.
 
How exactly is Israel any closer to being the ruling world power today than it was 5 years ago? It isn't. Your prophecy is no closer to fulfilment today than it was last year.

Are you deliberately ignoring everything I said leading up to that point? Why is it that now it seems quite reasonable to assume that Israel may attack Iran, whereas when I suggested the idea it was all conspiracy talk?

We are moving more towards the things I stated ie. the collapse of the US dollar, Israel launching a war in the Middle East, the US being stretched too far and Israel taking its place in the World, rather then moving in the other direction which could be the economy recovering, or things stabilising in the MI, or China/India appearing likely to succeed a falling US as so many people thought.
 
how is Israel going to take over the world?

how exactly is it going to compete with the likes of china and russia?
 
Are you deliberately ignoring everything I said leading up to that point? Why is it that now it seems quite reasonable to assume that Israel may attack Iran, whereas when I suggested the idea it was all conspiracy talk?

Who said Israel attacking Iran was never going to happen? I personally still think it is unlikely but they have form for pre-emptive attacks. What is conspiracy talk is the fact that it will somehow lead to Israel being a world power.

We are moving more towards the things I stated ie. the collapse of the US dollar, Israel launching a war in the Middle East, the US being stretched too far and Israel taking its place in the World, rather then moving in the other direction which could be the economy recovering, or things stabilising in the MI, or China/India appearing likely to succeed a falling US as so many people thought.

How exactly will Israel take the US's place as primary world power? Militarily they have very little power projection ability and many other nations militarys are more powerful. Economically they are pretty much stagnent and are dwarfed by many, many other nations. If the US were to fail (which is somewhat unlikely) why would China, Russia, India, Brazil, France, Germany, Britain and many other economically powerful nations decide that Israel is the new top dog?

How is Israel any closer to being the dominant world power today than it was last year?
 
huh, just noticed that London and quite a few other major cities have higher populations than the entire of Israel.
 
FAO: People of the internets.

Everything you read on the internet is not necessarily true.

Just because someone makes a YouTube video compiling news clips with dodgy music and a deep American accented voice over guy, doesn't mean it has any credibility. It only means they have too much free time on their hands.
(Haven't watched OP's videos as I'm at work in 10 mins, also I'd rather watch a full series of The Voice with commentary from Keith Chegwin than watch those videos)

Enjoy life instead of scouring the internet for this type I of ****. If you must browse the internet for most of the day, I recommend lolcats, dose cats get upto so much mischief and mayhem.

Lol without even looking at the alternative evidence you can claim it is rubbish and made by some idiot. The videos are proper news broadcasts. Go back to believing what our Government, TV news and newspapers tell you to believe. Another thing these videos prove is how much information our Government and media withhold from us. Unluckily for them though we have the internet to see what other countries are saying on their news channels.

I hope you never have to regret making statements like that but sadly I feel you will one day regret making those statements. There are many credible people from many different countries who are saying World War 3 is coming.

When posts like this come up people often ask where is your proof. That is why I got links to videos. In the China video they OPENLY say China will help defend Iran EVEN if that means starting World War 3. That is not conspiracy theory. Russia is building a lot of troops in the area. Again that is not conspiracy theory. America is building a lot of troops and warships in that area. Again that is not conspiracy theory. Iran wants to strike Iran. Again that is not conspiracy theory. They are OPENLY preparing for war. Just becuse it is not in our news does not mean it is not happening.

It is only a matter of time before Iran is attacked. When Israel strikes Iran that will be the start of World War 3.

Do you know the ONLY thing this so called elite/illuminate are scared of? People waking up and strating to really see what is going on around us. They know they could not take on 7 billion people. They have no need to worry though as most people are still sound asleep.
 
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how is Israel going to take over the world?

how exactly is it going to compete with the likes of china and russia?

I don't mean 'literally' take over the World in the sense they will control Russia, more as in they will take the position that the USA has held. Someone correct me if I am wrong but when the USA took over from Great Britain all those years ago, did the dollar not replace the stirling pound as the main world currency? I think history will repeat itself, and something new will replace the dollar which will be based in Israel.
 
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