32 Red

Ok....ok....You win...It's all in my head. My bankroll is a figment of my imagination and my method is a virtual non existent method, it doesn't actually exist...it's ALL IN MY TWISTED MESSED UP NON-FUNCTIONING HEAD :rolleyes:
 
The Halk said:
You're not telling the truth again. There is no way to predict what will happen. Anyone who says they can is lying.
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He didn't say he can predict roulette.

He said computational random number generators don't have the same randomness as a physical random number generator. Which is true. And which is why I only play on physical wheels.

That was my understanding though, maybe he can confirm?
 
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I've got my £32 working as £1 bet on 8 roulette tables. Having it do quick spin and autoplaying 50x at a go should get to the end pretty quick!
 
subbytna said:
RNG isn't roulette. There is no physics involved, there is a number generated and the little cartoon wheel pretends to drop the ball into it. A real wheel DOES factor in physical attributes and yes a computing assistant can and does help. I don't use one but I know people who do and they make a lot of money from it.
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without a means of prediction while the ball is in play a bet on roulette is just random... an RNG is no different in this respect.
 
Nash said:
I've got my £32 working as £1 bet on 8 roulette tables. Having it do quick spin and autoplaying 50x at a go should get to the end pretty quick!
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Well I've lost all my money before getting to the cashout level thing! That's my foray into gambling over and done with :p
 
subbytna said:
Ok....ok....You win...It's all in my head. My bankroll is a figment of my imagination and my method is a virtual non existent method, it doesn't actually exist...it's ALL IN MY TWISTED MESSED UP NON-FUNCTIONING HEAD :rolleyes:
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The outcome of any spin of the wheel is entirely random. However no matter what bet you place, the odds of the bet coming up are slightly less than the payout you receive.

Thus it is simply not possible for any system/prediction/method to generate a positive return, except by luck over the short term.

Anyone who insists this is incorrect is lying or deluding themselves.

That's as simple as it gets.
 
subbytna said:
RNG (Random Number Generator) IS NOT ROULETTE. It's a bit of software, if you want to win on Roulette you need to be disciplined and have a good money management strategy AND you need to play on a live wheel where 28 reds in a row doesn't happen.

I play roulette on a real wheel regularly and make a nice profit from it (£100+ a month). You have to stay under the radar though or you'll get banned. Casino's don't like regular winners. You also HAVE to play it as hit and run strategy.

Above all you have to have discipline. It's those that can't wait to turn £100 into £1000 in one sitting that lose it all and those players are the type that the casinos love to have losing their money!
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lol.....

If you actually believe your own hype you're a hazard to yourself.

Its absolutely proven that roulette is unbeatable in the long run, so no, you don't consistently make a steady £100+ profit every month. If you have the perfect winning system, which believe me, your the ONLY roulette player in the world to have, why don't you bet more than pathetically small stakes? £100+ a month? If you've got yourself a winning roulette strategy I suggest you write a book on it and publish it, because you will never have to work a day again in your life because you sir will have published the impossible and your book sales will go through the roof!

Why not use your system to make £5,000 a month? and don't say it will raise suspicion or anything stupid like that because people wager far great amounts in casinos all across the country on a daily basis....

The one and only casino 'house' table game that is beatable is blackjack and that is ONLY if you are an extremely good card counter. Unless you can do this properly then blackjack is unbeatable too....

Only table game you can play in a casino and have your skill provide you with long term winning results is poker....and that's because its not a house v punter game...

If you ever get around to playing at any of the main casinos in London, I'm a member in most of them, please invite me to join you so you can prove me and my big mouth wrong.
 
Lima said:
lol.....

If you actually believe your own hype you're a hazard to yourself.

Its absolutely proven that roulette is unbeatable in the long run, so no, you don't consistently make a steady £100+ profit every month. If you have the perfect winning system, which believe me, your the ONLY roulette player in the world to have, why don't you bet more than pathetically small stakes? £100+ a month? If you've got yourself a winning roulette strategy I suggest you write a book on it and publish it, because you will never have to work a day again in your life because you sir will have published the impossible and your book sales will go through the roof!

Why not use your system to make £5,000 a month? and don't say it will raise suspicion or anything stupid like that because people wager far great amounts in casinos all across the country on a daily basis....

The one and only casino 'house' table game that is beatable is blackjack and that is ONLY if you are an extremely good card counter. Unless you can do this properly then blackjack is unbeatable too....

Only table game you can play in a casino and have your skill provide you with long term winning results is poker....and that's because its not a house v punter game...

If you ever get around to playing at any of the main casinos in London, I'm a member in most of them, please invite me to join you so you can prove me and my big mouth wrong.
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Roulette isn't beatable all the time, I've already said so but if you implement a stop loss method and don't play continuously, then you can earn from it. You're assuming that I play continuously, which I don't. Once in the morning and once in the evening for a £5 to £10 profit. Factoring in the inevitable losses that do occur, I can syphon off £100 a month to spend as I want without any problems.

If you're winning +20 units a month (£100) then that's not to be sniffed at.

The method I play gives me a 80-1 chance of it being in my favour...covering zero every bet. Playing this method on a "hit and run" basis you can better avoid the duplicate lines (which cause a loss to appear). Playing continuously you get duplicate lines frequently and win streaks rarely outside 10. Playing hit and run you jump in and out so quick you'd be unlucky to hit a loss...but you DO and you have to factor this into your money management. PLaying hit and run you get win streaks in excess of 30 frequently given the 80-1 odds in your favour.
 
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subbytna said:
Roulette isn't beatable all the time, I've already said so but if you implement a stop loss method and don't play continuously, then you can earn from it. You're assuming that I play continuously, which I don't. Once in the morning and once in the evening for a £5 to £10 profit. Factoring in the inevitable losses that do occur, I can syphon off £100 a month to spend as I want without any problems.

If you're winning +20 units a month (£100) then that's not to be sniffed at.

The method I play gives me a 80-1 chance of it being in my favour...covering zero every bet. Playing this method on a "hit and run" basis you can better avoid the duplicate lines (which cause a loss to appear). Playing continuously you get duplicate lines frequently and win streaks rarely outside 10. Playing hit and run you jump in and out so quick you'd be unlucky to hit a loss...but you DO and you have to factor this into your money management. PLaying hit and run you get win streaks in excess of 30 frequently given the 80-1 odds in your favour.
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this is so retarded

what difference does it make if you come back in the evening or you just play the next spin?

absolutely no difference at all....

stop loss is meaningless if you're going to come back again - whether you play 100 times in a go or you play a couple of times each day for 50 days is irrelevant - they're independent events, you simply played 100 times.... you seem to be under the impression that the spins aren't independent and they somehow affect subsequent spins - this is the typical gamblers fallacy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler's_fallacy

each spin is an independent event - to try to argue otherwise just shows you up as a typical degenerate gambler
 
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You're still making it up.

Let's pick it away. You agree, surely, that you can't win over the long term, and the outcome is entirely random...

Thus if you have odds of 80-1 in your favour, and you're £100 a month up. However the casino has to win 1/37th of whatever is gambled.

So that means for the 80 times you win £100 the total you win is 8,000. This is 36/37th of what the bank wins on the 1 time you lose. This means the stake you have is £8,222.

You are NOT going to the casino and risking £8,222 in the hopes of winning £100. Even if it was possible to manipulate the odds on the table to generate an 80-1 scenario... there is no way you are doing this.

You're exposed as telling lies.
 
The Halk said:
You're still making it up.

Let's pick it away. You agree, surely, that you can't win over the long term, and the outcome is entirely random...
I agree that you have losses but thus far I have won more than I've lost. I might hit a bad run and hit losses which wipe me out but I've not yet and I@ve taken out my starting bank roll 3 tiems so I'm up regardless of what may happen


Thus if you have odds of 80-1 in your favour, and you're £100 a month up. However the casino has to win 1/37th of whatever is gambled.
I have odds in my favour that of the 4 numbers to come out - it would have to beat 80-1 to beat the type of bet I'm doing


So that means for the 80 times you win £100 the total you win is 8,000. This is 36/37th of what the bank wins on the 1 time you lose. This means the stake you have is £8,222.

You are NOT going to the casino and risking £8,222 in the hopes of winning £100. Even if it was possible to manipulate the odds on the table to generate an 80-1 scenario... there is no way you are doing this.

You're exposed as telling lies.
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Right if you want I can message you my method. I don't give a **** about you trolling me and my method. Fact is I know that I've done well from it. I've not got a "single bet" that puts things 80-1 odds in my favour. I've got a series of "4 bets" which are 80-1 NOT to repeat themselves which is where my bet can win. I'm asking the "random nature" of the wheel/croupier to spin me the exact 4 step sequence in the right order and 79 times out of 80 they can't, and so my bet wins.
 
dowie said:
this is so retarded

what difference does it make if you come back in the evening or you just play the next spin?
a losing pattern happens more during continuous play than if you're playing twice a day where you'd be very unlucky to hit a loss straight out in the sequence of play. There are more wins than losses so to hit a loss you'd be unlucky. Playing continuously you will hit a loss faster than jumping in for one win and then shutting down.

absolutely no difference at all....

stop loss is meaningless if you're going to come back again rubbish. Stop loss helps you stop chasing a losing bet and risking more money. If you have a stop loss in place you take the hit and move on by stopping betting- whether you play 100 times in a go or you play a couple of times each day for 50 days is irrelevant - they're independent events, you simply played 100 times.... you seem to be under the impression that the spins aren't independent and they somehow affect subsequent spins - this is the typical gamblers fallacy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler's_fallacy

each spin is an independent event - to try to argue otherwise just shows you up as a typical degenerate gambler
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:D Whatever you think :)
 
I play a method which mixes dozens and rows in a 4 bet pattern. I don't play straight up numbers placement. There are 81 different patterns with this method. Every time we commence a betting sequence we have odds of 80/1 in our favour.
 
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I don't play RNG games at all. No real table I've seen has pumped out 25+ reds in a row as I've seen on RNG on two different occasions, hance martingale systems always fail on RNG. Bottom line is that the way I play is safe and I'm in profit even if I lose everything now as I've taken out my initial bankroll (£300) about 3 times since last summer so I'm up £600 easy, even if I blow the lot now. I don't intend in doing this if I can help it so I'm happy to keep plugging away.

A loss for me is a loss on 4 consecutive bets with a progression of 1-1, 3-3, 9-9 (total 26units starting the real betting on the 2nd bet(of the 4 bet sequence) with the first bet a spin with no money placed.

26 units is £5 x 26 = £130 (I play with a unit as £5) Playing the method I do I have streaks of 30+ many times so if I have a loss to win ratio of 1:30(as a conservative figure, likely to be about 1:40 or more) then I'm still up £20 (4 units) If it was the 1:40 then I'm still up by £70. You can see where my £100 a month withdrawals comes in now.

Patience is the key and most people want to get rich in one go which you can't as it means you playing consecutively when you're deffo going to hit a loss quicker than if you jump in and out hours apart. Just
 
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