david cameron ''children should stand up''

Tbh we have to stand up whenever a teacher/adult enters the room anyway, and I have no problem with it, just seems like a thing that is supposed happen at all schools anyway...
 
Actually you are missing the point and not answering my questions.

Where does it say students must show this level of respect only to teachers and not other professions?

Why must they stand up when the teacher enters the room? Isn't listening and doing the work not enough?

You are right. However at what point have myself or anyone else suggested that no one else other than teachers are deserving of respect? I personally, treat everyone I meet with respect in the hope that I receive it back. That's the point I'm trying to make.

This topic is trying to communicate this way of thinking to children through school. If their parents aren't teaching children the way of respect then I feel this is a good idea.
 
Actually you are missing the point and not answering my questions.

Where does it say students must show this level of respect only to teachers and not other professions?

Why must they stand up when the teacher enters the room? Isn't listening and doing the work not enough?

No one is suggesting that you should only show respect to teachers, in fact you should show respect to everyone by default unless you have a damned good reason not to.

Teachers are in a position of authority over their students, this alone is enough to engender respect, you are showing respect for their authority rather than their person......(you can learn to respect them individually also, this is the respect is earned part of the process)

And standing up is a mark of good manners and respect, doing your work and listening is the minimum of what is expected of you and school is not only about learning arithmetic etc, it is also about learning social skills and how they fit into formal situations.....standing when a teacher enters the room at the beginning of a lesson, or while they enter assembly is simply a mechanism to instruct and not a punishment or some onerous unfair assault on your rights......

A few more manners is a good thing.
 
What about elders respect to you? Or does it only go one way?
if you show respect to them and they are in anyway half decent people they will give you repect back, however, this goes back to what i said before about giving respect until having reason not to.
 
That's a personal opinion which carries little weight.

I think most of the posters here are stuck in the past and need to be brought up to the 21st century.

I think that you simply do not understand what respect, politeness and manners are and if you do you do not understand how they should be applied.

Which is a sad indictment on the 21st Century if that kind of attitude to others is become the norm.
 
For primary school, perhaps.
Secondary school I don't think so.

At home? **** off!

Also when it comes to elders
Right, those old fossiles who forget we seem to live in 2012, who are complaining about everything and voting on socialists who imho ruin the country. I can be respectful to eldern if they respect me, the moment they start whining to believe in god or for more money or how bad world inequality is or whining about the environment or so ( anything opposed to a free market and liberal point of view) I don't want anything to do with them. It gets tiring, old people at the mall who start bugging you to read a page from the bible every day or whining why I need a car as a student and that taxes should be higher. I find that highly offensive and disrespectful towards me ( being the Right wing Liberal Atheist I am).
 
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There is a difference between general respect and the sort of respect people are suggesting teachers and some other people should have.

For example, saying thank you, holding doors open etc is fine, but when you get to the point of "respect" being having to obey everything someone says and take their word as gospel then that is where it needs to be earned.

Unfortunately there are a lot of older people that break kids like **** and expect respect in return, that should not be the case...


You also need to respect their authority, if you think that they are abusing that authority then you follow the procedures set out to that or speak to your parents.

And given a teachers authority, then their instructions should be followed and their word is gospel....if you have an issue with then you need to go to their superior or to your parents and then it becomes their responsibility to ensure that no abuse of the authority given them is happening.

And standing until told to sit is not onerous, it is simple manners and an good simple mechanism for teaching discipline and politeness.
 
When I was in school we would stand up in class when a head teacher or head of year entered the room. Didn't do us any harm to be honest...

Don't think it's entirely necessary when you're at home though...
 
Cameron wants kids to show respect, and it's not a bad idea for kids to learn some, but during the many school holidays these kids watch a PMQ and see those who govern this country ooze respect.
 
My old geography teacher at middle school used to make us do this, she told us it was how it was a cultural norm where she was from (Jamaica). By the end of the year we were doing it regardless of whether or not we were in her classes.

Never did us no 'arm and, frankly speaking, the kids needed to learn some respect.
 
Why? by being a year older do you no longer need to show respect for elders and people in a position of responsibility and to some extent authority:confused:

I can't imagine standing up every time a teacher comes in, I went to a school where our relation was informal mostly and it worked, of course they are in charge when actually teaching, but aside from that they wee mostly decent people you could make jokes and stuff with and chat about normal things.

Plus having to stand up 7x a day when you change class is just impractical.

then again I also can't imagine myself in a school uniform like is the standard in the UK.
 
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I dislike what David Cameron says, mainly because he says it. There is just something unredeemable about the man, his smugness, attitude etc.

Yes I'm aware it's an irrational view, but I really don't like the man.
 
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