New Samsung S23A700D 120Hz

Merlin5 said:
Would it benefit me to change to '(standard display types)', 'Direct 3D Stereo (120Hz)' like yours?
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I only changed it trying to launch Transformers, it worked that way, where as getting tridef launch errors using the AMD settings.

Give it a try, you can always change it back.
 
tommybhoy said:
Not got it myself, can't try it out.

If it has a dual bios switch on it, get RBE and manually change the voltage in the bios?
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The switch only does something with the DVI to allow me to do 120HZ.
RBE doesn't work with 7970's yet.

Seems I'm stuck for a while.

Merlin5 said:
Would it benefit me to change to '(standard display types)', 'Direct 3D Stereo (120Hz)' like yours?

My control panel by default is set to

Manufacturer: (automatic detection)
Model: AMD HD3D or Side By Side
Version 6
ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series
Current: 1920 x 1080 at 120.0Hz
Preferred: Any resolution
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You're using side by side for 3D at the moment?
 
tommybhoy said:
I only changed it trying to launch Transformers, it worked that way, where as getting tridef launch errors using the AMD settings.

Give it a try, you can always change it back.
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Good point, will do.

melmac said:
Well for starters I think Active is better purely from a resolution point of view. But, I think the main thing is that moving to active is hard at first because your eyes aren't used to it. After a while your eyes wil adjust and you shouldn't be getting any headaches or anything.

But, there is a also a trick out there to solve crosstalk and flickering issues. You cover most of the sensor on the glasses with black electrical tape. It cuts down on sync issues and flicker so should reduce eye pain as well. I would give it a try if I was you.

I think with this monitor and if you have an AMD card you are best to stick with TRidef rather than go for nvidia 3d vision. You should be able to get frame sequential working which is much better than side by side.
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Thanks for the tips. Yep, I'm prepared to persevere, you may be right about adjusting to them.

Where exactly are the sensors that need covering with tape?

As far as frame sequential, I see it listed in the monitors 3D mode settings (Off, 2D>3D, Frame Sequential,Top-Bottom, Side-by-Side) but I thought all those settings were nothing to do with Tridef? Do I need to set it to Frame Sequential then from the monitor or should I find it somewhere else in the Tridef software?
 
Merlin5 said:
I seem to be yeah. Am I doing it wrong? :p
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You're only getting 980x1080.
The reason why I got rid of my GTX680 :p

And Rome Total War won't work because it's DX8.
Nvidia 3D Vision is so superior to this it's insane, and they know it =/.

So very much wish I'd gone passive with the 680, too late now.
 
Martini1991 said:
Rome Total War.
It has its own .exe but I can't launch the .exe as I get a "can't find steam error"
Needs to be launched through Steam.
Nvidia vision was sooooo much easier to use when I was using anagylph, passive would have been exactly the same for ease too.

For 3D Mode I just use direct3dstereo120HZ, I assume that's correct?
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well you can try this, start tridef and select add a game as normal and point it to steam.exe, then select generic profile.

Now in the command line arguments section put

-applaunch 4760

Not sure it will work but give it a go.
 
melmac said:
well you can try this, start tridef and select add a game as normal and point it to steam.exe, then select generic profile.

Now in the command line arguments section put

-applaunch 4760

Not sure it will work but give it a go.
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I installed my Rome Total War via disc.
Added it and nothing.
It's a DX8 game, think it lacks any support.

My Dell P2310H was a plain 2D 60HZ screen, yet any Nvidia user that has a monitor like that can use anaglyph 3D and its pretty good bar the colour distortion.

I sound like I'm constantly whining, I'm impressed with the monitor, just think the 3D stuff pales in comparison.
 
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mrflibbleuk said:
Just got these monitors yesterday and love them, really great picture. I'm having an issue with a 3 way setup and posted the issue in the graphics card section but will add here too in case anyone can shed some light on this:

I have one MSI 7850 Frozr III and 3 x Samsung S23A700D in a 3 way setup @120Hz. I'm using catalyst drivers 12.3 (12.4 was even worse).

I have two monitors connected via startech mini display port active adapters and one monitor connected on the dual dvi. Unfortunately the dual dvi screen is tearing and it doesn't matter how I switch the cabling round, for the monitors, the monitor connected via dual dvi always does this. It's not unusable but it's one of those things, that you know it's there, even in windows and just gets annoying. After looking around I found other people having this issue and it seems to be the only solution is to have three connectors all the same type. This seems really odd though when most cards, even the 680s, have 2 of one type of connector and 1 of the other types.

Looking around at upgrades, some of the bespoke 7970's have 4 or more mini display ports but that means buying another active converter or maybe just going the whole hog for a 690 which has 3xdual dvi. Has anyone else had issues with this?
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I (and a few others) am having lots of trouble with my 3 and have posted back a few pages about it.

I fixed the tearing you seem to be having by changing my Prefered monitor is the Eyefinity CCC section.


Martini1991 said:
How'd you get Steam games to work with Tridef?
I'm struggling :p
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If you get "the d9 error"
Make sure you close Steam each time before you start a game.
Tridef should start both
Check the Tridef forums for Profile bugs and updates for the game you want to play.

Martini1991 said:
The switch only does something with the DVI to allow me to do 120HZ.
RBE doesn't work with 7970's yet.

Seems I'm stuck for a while.



You're using side by side for 3D at the moment?
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I'm pretty sure theres a bug with current ATI drivers not allowing UPLS or something. Which was the reason I couldnt change the voltages on mine apparently?

Also set Tridef to AMDHD3D HDMI1.4 to get Frame Sequential mode on ATI cards.
And I dont think SBS makes game resolution smaller? At least it didn't on my ATI card?


The previous pages in this thread contains answers to most of your problems, I know its 20 odd pages now but a quick search might help find some answers easier.

Also you should really check the Tridef Forums to help with games. Just google Tridef and the game you need help with and the threads will pop up.
 
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Side by side is obviously going to make the width smaller because the screen is split into two :p so it turns into 980x1080.
I just use Direct 3D 120HZ stereo thing.
And my Rome Total War issues are a lack of compatibility with the older DX8.
 
Merlin5 said:
Good point, will do.



Thanks for the tips. Yep, I'm prepared to persevere, you may be right about adjusting to them.

Where exactly are the sensors that need covering with tape?

As far as frame sequential, I see it listed in the monitors 3D mode settings (Off, 2D>3D, Frame Sequential,Top-Bottom, Side-by-Side) but I thought all those settings were nothing to do with Tridef? Do I need to set it to Frame Sequential then from the monitor or should I find it somewhere else in the Tridef software?
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Well, it's what a lot of people say anyway :p

As for the sensor, lol, no idea where it is, sorry :) I just read it on a few different forums about active glasses. it can only be one of two spots where the battery goes or where the power switch is.

Frame Sequential only seems to work with AMD cards. And yeah you need to set it in the TRidef software first. I think I read somewhere that with AMD cards and this monitor you don't need to touch anything on the monitor. In tridef display options I think you set it to AMD and then the AMD HD3D HMDI 1.4a. But I don't think it works with cards older than the 6xxx series from AMD. So if your signature is right and you only have a 5850 then you are stuck with side by side.
 
Martini1991 said:
You're only getting 980x1080.
The reason why I got rid of my GTX680 :p

And Rome Total War won't work because it's DX8.
Nvidia 3D Vision is so superior to this it's insane, and they know it =/.

So very much wish I'd gone passive with the 680, too late now.
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Damn. So how do I get full 3D res? I just tried tommy's setting '(standard display types)', 'Direct3D Stereo (120Hz)' and tried skyrim again, and the 3D looks exactly the same as when I had it in side by side.

Here's some 3D tridef screenshots I just took, so stick your glasses on for these. They look great to me, so I've no idea what I'm missing if I'm only getting 980x1080. Not sure if looking at these gives you an indication of what I'm personally seeing or not. They look cool though :p

They're all over 1.5MB each.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/merlin.five/0001.TriDefPhoto
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/merlin.five/0003.TriDefPhoto
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/merlin.five/0005.TriDefPhoto
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/merlin.five/0006.TriDefPhoto
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/merlin.five/0007.TriDefPhoto
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/merlin.five/0008.TriDefPhoto
 
Martini1991 said:
Side by side is obviously going to make the width smaller because the screen is split into two :p so it turns into 980x1080.
I just use Direct 3D 120HZ stereo thing.
And my Rome Total War issues are a lack of compatibility with the older DX8.
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Yea I see what you mean I only tried sbs once on crysis 2 and didn't think there was anything wrong with it though.

Have you checked the Tridef forums for a Rome profile? Sometimes users upload ones that fix things the Tridef ones cant?

Also you can change Tridef to Anaglyph in the Control Panel if you ever want to use that.
 
machinebummer said:
Yea I see what you mean I only tried sbs once on crysis 2 and didn't think there was anything wrong with it though.

Have you checked the Tridef forums for a Rome profile? Sometimes users upload ones that fix things the Tridef ones cant?

Also you can change Tridef to Anaglyph in the Control Panel if you ever want to use that.
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I can't find a profile, I think it's the DX8 thing.
Have no reason to switch to anaglyph, it's still tridef.
 
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