didnt look like they were.... it looked like they were already outside
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didnt look like they were.... it looked like they were already outside
Why is it so hard to actually watch the program itself....
Where the Dire-wolves were clearly waiting outside of the crypt entrance when it was forced open......and they clearly moved off into the forest away from Brans group just prior to them returning to the crypt in winterfell in an earlier episode....
You made the "obviously they were" comment when it is pretty obvious they were not, both if you followed the narrative of the series and especially if you read the book.
such a simple concept.....
They were outside watching the burning of Winterfell when the entrance to the crypt was forced open.
While I appreciate the differences in the book, some of the events are clearly implied in the narrative and without using spoilers if you watch the earlier episodes when Bran etc initially escape you will see where this is implied......
when Bran etc hide in the Farmhouse just before almost being discovered (the children are used as the surrogates) you can see the Direwolves move off into the trees, looking back with Bran looking on...clearly implying that the wolves are outside prior to the burning of Winterfell.
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indeed.
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Nasty looking buggers arent they 
If you have not seen season 2 Episode 10 yet dont click
If you have not seen season 2 Episode 10 yet dont click
Why is it so hard to actually watch the program itself.....Where the Dire-wolves were clearly waiting outside of the crypt entrance when it was forced open......and they clearly moved off into the forest away from Brans group just prior to them returning to the crypt in winterfell in an earlier episode....
You made the "obviously they were" comment when it is pretty obvious they were not, both if you followed the narrative of the series and especially if you read the book.
such a simple concept.....
Utter tripe - I've just re-watched the episode in question, the bit you inexplicably have in spoilers never happened. You're talking **** about something that's inconsequential (coming from you, why should I be surprised?).
watch it again.....
In the last episode Brans party come out of the Crypt, walk across the courtyard and then see the Summer and Shaggy dog in front of them with both Bran and Rickon looking relieved.....waiting by the gate to the weirwood, at no point do you see the wolves in the crypt or exiting the crypt with Brans party...in episode 8 there are no direwolves in the crypt with Bran or Rickon while Osha explains their double back and in episode 6 you see the wolves leave with Brans Party.............if you have read the books as well, you would also have made the same connections given the knowledge the book gives and the TV show only implies....I suspect that it will be revisited once the twins are introduced next season.
Or maybe you can illustrate exactly how it is obvious that the wolves were in the crypt with Brans party instead?
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Brienne's scenes are exactly as she is portrayed in the book... she isn't expressive or animated, she is awkward and wooden... and resolutely determined to ignore any goading she is subjected to, having been subjected to it her whole life for being the only (known) female knightly warrior in the Seven Kingdoms. Yet they portrayed well the seething anger which lies under the surface of her stoic demeanour, when she maliciously (deservedly, but maliciously) gutted the Northman who had put one of the whores who lay with Lannisters to a slow and painful death. I also think she looks the part too, powerful and broad physique with barely even a hint of comeliness about her.
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I enjoyed the last episode, not as much as episode 9, but then that was probably my favourite episode of either season. I also don't understand what happened to the 500 northman outside winterfell, and how Theon and co managed to sneak past them.
This is just a guess (and bear in mind I haven't read any of the books), maybe the obsidian they found was buried because one of the earlier black watch wanted them to find it. Maybe it has some significance in relation to the white walkers, possibly a weakness of theirs or something along those lines.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to season 3, it's just a shame we're going to have to wait so long for it. Season 2 seemed to go so quickly
This is just a guess (and bear in mind I haven't read any of the books), maybe the obsidian they found was buried because one of the earlier black watch wanted them to find it. Maybe it has some significance in relation to the white walkers, possibly a weakness of theirs or something along those lines.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to season 3, it's just a shame we're going to have to wait so long for it. Season 2 seemed to go so quickly
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I enjoyed the last episode, not as much as episode 9, but then that was probably my favourite episode of either season. I also don't understand what happened to the 500 northman outside winterfell, and how Theon and co managed to sneak past them.
I doubt they did, they were showed knocking out Theon, they were also given the order from Rob that any man who surrendered would be returned home, except Theon, so I reckon they knock him out, bind and gag him, and hand him over expecting to get passage home.
Whether they get it or not is another thing, who knows.
How about there were either in the Godswood, or skulking in the Wolfswood which is just outside Winterfell and returned after everyone left?
Personally I think Brienne is great too, awkward, ungainly and unsociable but deadly
Exactly, Roose Bolton even said to Robb that the Ironmen would probably hand Theon over after they heard his offer
They're more old looking, the whitewalkers, than I thought they would be but still look scary. Blue eyes and white hair, Targaryans and Lannisters, this will be where they get their evil streak from then, one of them breeded(?) with a whitewalker 
Can't wait until I can read book 2, I thought this season was awesome but from reading GoT I know first hand how much better the books are than the show. I think they both go hand in hand very well though. I'm pretty upset about the Maester of Winterfell dying They didn't have to kill him FFS!
Can't wait until I can read book 2, I thought this season was awesome but from reading GoT I know first hand how much better the books are than the show. I think they both go hand in hand very well though. I'm pretty upset about the Maester of Winterfell dying
They didn't have to kill him FFS!
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Lets talk about the last scene. Perhaps something they could have effectively done differently. Personally i think it would have been scarier if we'd seen the whole thing from Sam's perspective, rather than just showing you the whole thing outright. Your imagination is always scarier than what CGI can show you.
But even then, the editing was a bit weird as well. It looks like the White Walker is staring at Sam, but it may not have even been the intention to have them see him at all. Also - who did blow the horn?
But even then, the editing was a bit weird as well. It looks like the White Walker is staring at Sam, but it may not have even been the intention to have them see him at all. Also - who did blow the horn?
Yer I was a little confused by that, presumably if Sam isn't killed by any of those zombies then he would have seen how vast the army was that walked past him, this would have taken a long time to show though so we get an overhead view which is OK.
When we first see the whitewalkers in the prologue of the first book we find out they are ruthless creatures with supreme fighting skills they didn't spot the kid in the trees though so they don't have supernatural smell or anything like that so perhaps they just didn't see Sam and the bloke was looking at his flank. OR attacking Sam would cause a disruption to the marching of the army and it could be very hard to control the people so killing Sam is just not worth the effort? Or they are simply not that dangerous and only attack when they feel threatened or are in urgent need of food. Who knows, it's one of the story lines along with Daenerys' that really fascinates me. In westeros it's more or less like the midles ages of europe with a hint of magic and socery, however beyond the wall we have undead things and across the sea we've got dragons. With our knowledge of both at the moment we have to assume both can easily kill anything and everything with ease.
Can't wait for the next installment, I may well have read book 3 by then though which is what I want to do.
The Night's Watch set look outs who blow the horn. Though it's always bugged me a bit about that scene how they knew that Others were approaching - especially as I imagine you'd have to be pretty sure as a lookout before sounding three times. In last night's scene the approach of the white walkers was obfuscated in fog, so surely they wouldn't have seen them until it was too late.
I thought that the white walker looked at Sam and decided not to bother killing him, which made little sense until someone pointed out that a white walker let that other NW fella live in episode 1 - the one Ned Stark beheaded. Not entirely convinced by that though.
That one hid up in a tree until the walkers left, so if Sam isn't seen there is no reason to believe he can't live. I have a couple of other ideas above though. They could all be well off the mark though and there be another reason entirely.
In the book he did, but in the TV series he just ran, got overtaken, saw his buddy beheaded then next thing he was being hunted down by Ned Stark's men.
Yes, and the TV show didn't show anyone hiding from the white walkers up a tree.