Poll: Winter Is Coming - HBO's A Game of Thrones [READ WARNING]

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Ok. You think referring to a huge plot point from a future book and having to put it in tags doesn't constitute a spoiler.

Riiiiiight.

Oh get back to Crasters already ;)

I felt I was vague enough that it wouldn't constitute a spoiler, anyone who hadn't read the books would have had no clue to what i meant.

Anyway, am sorry and won't happen again.
 
Having re-watched the episode i ended up with a question for the last few minutes: with all those white walkers ect heading towards the wall it does not look likely that Mormont and the rangers and troops he took out into the wilds will be able to get back to defend the wall. I dont know if he stripped castle black of most of its defenders but there were afair number there at Crasters place. Hmmm

Got the 1st two books last week but have yet to start reading them.

Oh and these are always a good but brief watch :)

 
I'm glad I haven't read the books as there does seem to be a fair bit of disappointment with aspects of the program from a fair few people.

I've only just got up to the part where Bronn steps in as Tyrions Champion at the Eyrie and there have been scenes changed and characters who are described differently in the book but some of the scenes are a lot of better and some I would have liked to seen more in tune with the book (most recent one off the top of my head is the scene where they take Osha prisoner in the Wolfswood).

I'm not complaining though, I love the series and I'm enjoying the book.

Anyways, what is with the Whitewalkers?

Are the Whitewalkers the Wolf pack from the first series who have killed and raised a dead army? Because it's said that they haven't been around for thousands of years but they keep harping on about Jon killing a WW but it was only a human resurrected?

I'm not sure what to believe because the Wolf pack had some supernatural abilities in the way they moved and their strength was incredible yet these Human WW aren't really anything special.

I'm confused...and how did this all start in the first place? Magic? :p
 
I think they did a fantastic job. Simply put, to do the book as it was would have required about another 5 episodes minimum. And a MUCH bigger budget which they simply don't have (blackwater almost didnt happen due to budget!!). Not to mention throwing at least another dozen characters at the audience. Those actors would have to be tied into the series for however long they last - could end up with lots more Gregor Clegane type recastings.

They're saving those for next season which will only be half of book 3 so they'll have time to introduce those missing characters and weave them into the story.

They also had to give characters that barely got a mention in book 2 screentime to stop the audience wandering wtf they were as they are not pov chars (Robb, Tywin etc) which they did well. Tywin stuff especially really added to the character.

At the end of the day it's an adaptation. The journey might be a bit different but it'll end up in the same place. Assuming Martin doesn't go belly up!
 
Anyways, what is with the Whitewalkers?

Are the Whitewalkers the Wolf pack from the first series who have killed and raised a dead army? Because it's said that they haven't been around for thousands of years but they keep harping on about Jon killing a WW but it was only a human resurrected?

Jon killed a wite/wight (sp?)...which I think is a human killed by a walker and then brought back in their service. The fellow we see on the dead horse at the end of the episode is a true white walker.
 
Jon killed a wite/wight (sp?)...which I think is a human killed by a walker and then brought back in their service. The fellow we see on the dead horse at the end of the episode is a true white walker.

Ah you're right. They were pronouncing it wite/white/wight, I just thought they were shortening the word down. Cheers for that.

I still have questions about the Wolf pack though but I'll let it slide :p (although I really don't want to)
 
What do you mean by wolf pack?

The wolves they mention roaming the riverlands or something else?

The first scenes in the series and book. If they're not actual Whitewalkers and are just whites then how are they allowed to stand on two legs and hold swords? Are they Direwolves or Werewolves turned undead?
 
I can't remember which episode he departed with the hand of the Wight which Ghost bit off, but we haven't seen anything of Alliser Thorne since that moment.

He was supposed to go to Kings Landing with the hand and the amount of time that appeared to pass after he left makes it strange that he never seemed to make it there?

Especially when someone like Baelish has been up and down the country multiple times in the same time period. Did they just forget, or are we to presume he did not make it?
 
The first scenes in the series and book. If they're not actual Whitewalkers and are just whites then how are they allowed to stand on two legs and hold swords? Are they Direwolves or Werewolves turned undead?

The white walkers are nothing to do with wolves, no idea where you've got that from. In the first episode we didn't see the white walkers very well; just a hint of something very sinister. Last night's episode was the first time we saw them properly - they were the ones mounted on undead horses. Most of the force that's attacking the Night's Watch are wights though, hence why they were in wildling or NW clothes. Hope that helps.
 
I can't remember which episode he departed with the hand of the Wight which Ghost bit off, but we haven't seen anything of Alliser Thorne since that moment.

He was supposed to go to Kings Landing with the hand and the amount of time that appeared to pass after he left makes it strange that he never seemed to make it there?

Especially when someone like Baelish has been up and down the country multiple times in the same time period. Did they just forget, or are we to presume he did not make it?

I think there was one scene with him in King's Landing - he was mocked by the small council, except Tyrion who was mocked for appearing to believe in Grumpkins, Snarks and other children's stories.
 
The first scenes in the series and book. If they're not actual Whitewalkers and are just whites then how are they allowed to stand on two legs and hold swords? Are they Direwolves or Werewolves turned undead?

:confused:

At the start of this first season it was a whitewalker. They are race like goblins etc Can see the sword made of ice there
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:confused:

At the start of this first season it was a whitewalker. They are race like goblins etc Can see the sword made of ice there
game-thrones-zombie.jpg

Thank you. Why did I think they were Wolves? Possibly due to the fact that it was Dark and their skin colour reminds of a Wolf?

Embarrassed but thank you for clearing that up.
 
No they are not...read the books.

Where they were in the books might not be the same as where they were in the show.

I still have questions about the Wolf pack though but I'll let it slide :p (although I really don't want to)

Are you talking about Nymeria's wolfpack?

the dream sequence before she met drogo, she was in a burnt castle, was that meant to be harrenhal?

You mean the Red Keep? There was an iron throne and everything...
 
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