John Terry Racism Trial

[Purdy]

just to be clear, are you disputing that Suarez said "I don't talk to negroes" or are you saying that there is a context in which "I don't talk to negroes" is acceptable?

Obviously, why would he say that with many black team mates/friends/family and a country with a large black population.

As for the whole negro/negrito being used in an offensive manor whenever it was said is another matter, the fact Evra changed multiple times the exact word Suarez called him and how many times makes me suspicious.

As for the 'well Suarez changed his version', yes largely because he wasn't thinking about having to recall it during the game (could you remember word for word what was said with a mate last night?) and he wasn't given the video to explain his version of events, Evra was. They wanted to make an example of someone with no proof and they did it.

The media also helped

Spoiler

 

[BaZ87]

Not necessarily, he could have misunderstood it/thought it meant something else.

That's entirely possible.

Choc-Ice isn't your typical insult. To realise that the term was being used as an insult, you surely know its meaning.

 

[mmj_uk]

“Anyone who says they’re thinking of going on Twitter, I always say ‘You’ve got to have a thick skin’,” Ferdinand said. “You’ve got to be able to take abuse. If you can’t take abuse, then it’s not the place for you to be on there.

What a hypocrite, we'd have never heard the end of it if someone had racially offended him on Twitter.

 

[inogen]

Obviously, why would he say that with many black team mates/friends/family and a country with a large black population.

His maternal Grandfather is black.

Never spoken to him though...

 

[Moothead2]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/7957958/

What a muppet. Just admit your guilt and get this **** over with.

 

[Robbo]

I knew he'd deny the charges, he'll stick to what he said on Twitter I imagine.

Will the FA buy it... probably not, as they saw fit to charge him in the first place.

 

[[ASSE]Hinchy]

If it is likely that Terry will be punished based on the FA's probability factor, I think its safe to say Ferdinand will be punished too.

 

[BaZ87]

Will the FA buy it... probably not, as they saw fit to charge him in the first place.

I remember reading at the time of the Suarez hearing that the FA has a 99.5% conviction rate. I think it's safe to say that anybody that gets charged by the FA will most likely be found guilty.

 

[Cosimo]

JT denies FA charge:

John Terry has today [Friday 3 August 2012] denied an FA charge of using abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour, which included a reference to ethnic origin and/or colour and/or race, towards Queens Park Rangers’ Anton Ferdinand.

The Chelsea player has requested a personal hearing, the date of which will be set in due course. During this period John Terry remains available to play for England.

The FA will make no further comment during this time.

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary/NewsAndFeatures/2012/john-terry-denies-charge

 

[Cosimo]

According to the DM the FA hearing will now take place on the 24th of September in a secret location over two or three days.

 

[Cosimo]

So finally FA Independent Commission starts today. It only requires "balance of probability" as opposed to "beyond reasonable doubt" to reach a verdict. Given this lower burden of proof I suspect that there haven’t been many not guilty bets placed.

 

[elmuzzy66.]

I just hope there is consistancy from the fa. If found gulity then 8 game ban. But its the fa who knows?

 

[Tummy]

I hope they ban him for more then 8 games! Fingers crossed.

 

[Cosimo]

Samuel hits the nail on the on head:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ar...England-captain-FA-guilty--Martin-Samuel.html

 

[Newbie007]

Samuel hits the nail on the on head:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ar...England-captain-FA-guilty--Martin-Samuel.html

Martin Samuel has continously made apology after apology for Terry's actions & not just during the racism events, its always someone elses fault and never EBJT's.

He should never have been given the England captaincy given his dubious moral compass, add into the fact he just isn't a very good defender either and of course he is going retire from internationals.

Oh and regarding Samual as a journalist, this little gem from the quoted peice

He stands accused of a racist outburst, and his career and reputation are at stake

He (and his media chums) didn't care one iota about a persons reputation when labelling Luis Suarez a racist on far less proof than is available for Terry's outburst either.

Hack writer for a **** paper

 

[Tummy]

Martin Samuel lol

 

[cm1179]

lol @ the dailymail being gospel when it suits.

 

[Cosimo]

Looks like we are close to a verdict.


Another interesting read while we wait:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mic...why-the-hate-for_b_1913537.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

 

[Purdy]

Only one verdict if they want to be consistent.

 

[Breeze]

Found guilty.

4 match ban, what a joke.