AMD FX-4170 Gaming build, Nvida GPU, Watercooling

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PapaLazaru said:
Listen, I don't know how old you are, but we have all made these mistakes. You get sucked into wanting something for no reason. We have all done it. When you get older you realise how much money you have thrown down the toilet making these silly purchases. You then begin to learn and accept advice. These forums are full of good advice. Proper geeks we are (well not me so much I am far too cool :D), but they are advising for a reason and that reason is simple. You are wasting your money.

Just return it and start again, you will save money long term and as it is on finance, you have to squeeze every penny out of it that you can.

I have an AMD chip and I even purchased an AM3+ board (Sabertooth 990FX) ready thinking Bulldozer was the way forwards. It is not. Hence, my trust old Phenom (which still beats your 4170) is still being used in it until it dies, I come into some money, or Piledriver is remotely decent.

Is that constructive enough? :)
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I even know that, AND I AM YOUNGER THAN YOU!!!

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-3820 3.60GHz (Sandybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - Retail £239.99
1 x VTX3D HD 7850 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with FREE Dirt3 PC Game £184.99
1 x MSI X79A-GD45 (8D) Intel X79 (Socket 2011) DDR3 Motherboard £153.98
1 x Intel 330 Series 120GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive - Retail £83.99
1 x Corsair Enthusiast Series TX 650W V2 High Performance '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020038-UK) £78.98
1 x Patriot Viper Xtreme 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 1600MHz Quad Channel Kit (PXQ316G1600LLQK) £71.99
1 x Phanteks PH-TC14PE CPU Cooler - Blue (Socket LGA 2011/1155/1156/1366/775/AMD AM2/2+/AM3) £66.98
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) £64.99
1 x Zalman Z11 Plus Midi Tower Gaming Case - Black £59.99
Total : £1,019.39 (includes shipping : £11.25).


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T345 said:
He could have gotten a AMD 8 core with a 7850 and a 128gb SSD...
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The 4 core FX4170 is better for gaming as it is 4.2ghz stock. Games only use 2-3 cores so a 8 core clocked at 3.6ghz would be worse. If I overclock it to 4.2ghz it would get rather hot as all 8 cores would be running that speed. I could then disable 4 cores to get desired temperature but that would be rather pointless as I might as well save £60 and just get the CPU I have already bought.

SSD has already been bought, I went for the Intel 120gb 550.

I wanted an Nvidia based graphics card as i plan to SLi in a few months when I have the money, plus a few games i already have support PhysX as a bonus so they work much better on Nvidia cards as the card runs PhysX rather then the CPU.

I have had a long thought about all this :)
 

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OliverDavis said:
The 4 core FX4170 is better for gaming as it is 4.2ghz stock. Games only use 2-3 cores so a 8 core clocked at 3.6ghz would be worse. If I overclock it to 4.2ghz it would get rather hot as all 8 cores would be running that speed. I could then disable 4 cores to get desired temperature but that would be rather pointless as I might as well save £60 and just get the CPU I have already bought.

SSD has already been bought, I went for the Intel 120gb 550.

I wanted an Nvidia based graphics card as i plan to SLi in a few months when I have the money, plus a few games i already have support PhysX as a bonus so they work much better on Nvidia cards as the card runs PhysX rather then the CPU.

I have had a long thought about all this :)
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I don't think that would be the case, due to the higher cache and the larger cash back :D As you got a good cooler you could have clocked it to 5 gHz :)
 

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T345 said:
I don't think that would be the case, due to the higher cache and the larger cash back :D As you got a good cooler you could have clocked it to 5 gHz :)
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Well true, but I do not want to overclock yet. I want to keep the PC relatively quiet or the Gf will want it moved out of the bed room, ill have to overclock over a series of weeks/months so she doesn't notice the slight increments in noise :)

Either way the 4 core has almost been delivered, its 2 miles away in a truck :)

Has anyone got any advise on where/how i should mount the H80? as i hope not to lose the 200mm side fan. Im hoping to get a bracket to mount it in the 200mm top fan slot that is unused.
 

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Orcvader said:
Fair enough... then I'll warn you, be careful, not a lot of people will be happy you picked Bulldozer :p.
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Don't think it has anything to do with people happy about it or not, but more about people want to convince and stop someone who is determined to commit suicide jumping off a bridge...

If we didn't care, we could all just walked on and pretend we saw nothing...
 

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Ladies and gentlemen, we have a new ZZZAC. :D

This is not Intel fanboyism - the fact is, for anything above £400, Intel has the market utterly cornered at the moment. We simply want you to get the most 'bang for your buck' - and at the moment, Intel does this. Of course, this is your money, but we are just looking out for you. ;) :)

In 2005, you'd face the same response if you tried to buy Intel; the Pentium 4 sucked massively, it was hot, it was slow (Bulldozer? :p) and the clear choice was the AMD 64.

I'll put it down as inexperience. TBH, DSR it and get someone to spec you up.
 

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Ladies and gentlemen, we have a new ZZZAC. :D

This is not Intel fanboyism - the fact is, for anything above £400, Intel has the market utterly cornered at the moment. We simply want you to get the most 'bang for your buck' - and at the moment, Intel does this. Of course, this is your money, but we are just looking out for you. ;) :)

In 2005, you'd face the same response if you tried to buy Intel; the Pentium 4 sucked massively, it was hot, it was slow (Bulldozer? :p) and the clear choice was the AMD 64.

I'll put it down as inexperience. TBH, DSR it and get someone to spec you up.
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The main reason the build is so expensive is because i chose other components that are a little more costly.

As shown in a previous post the fact that it is AMD isnt why its expensive, the case and graphics card are £330 together.

If i removed premium parts it would only be £450, with basic same running internals;

Your basket
Product Name Qty Price Line Total
OcUK GeForce GTX 560Ti 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £185.99
(£154.99) £185.99
(£154.99)
AMD Bulldozer FX-4 Quad Core 4170 Black Edition 4.20Ghz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail with FREE Dirt Showdown PC Game **£10 Cashback** £104.99
(£87.49) £104.99
(£87.49)
Gigabyte 970A-DS3 AMD 970A (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard ** FREE NEXUIZ GAME ** £59.99
(£49.99) £59.99
(£49.99)
GeIL Dragon 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (GD38GB1600C11DC) £39.95
(£33.29) £39.95
(£33.29)
OcUK Bos Midi Tower Case - Black/Red £24.98
(£20.82) £24.98
(£20.82)
OcUK Swift 550W V2 Silent Power Supply £22.99
(£19.16) £22.99
(£19.16)
OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £13.99
(£11.66) £13.99
(£11.66)
Sub Total : £377.40
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £11.75
VAT is being charged at 20.00% VAT : £77.83
Total : £466.98

(Skipping the HDD as i have an 120gb SSD and a slow 500gb HDD)
 

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scrlk said:
u9MDD.jpg

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a new ZZZAC. :D

This is not Intel fanboyism - the fact is, for anything above £400, Intel has the market utterly cornered at the moment. We simply want you to get the most 'bang for your buck' - and at the moment, Intel does this. Of course, this is your money, but we are just looking out for you. ;) :)

In 2005, you'd face the same response if you tried to buy Intel; the Pentium 4 sucked massively, it was hot, it was slow (Bulldozer? :p) and the clear choice was the AMD 64.

I'll put it down as inexperience. TBH, DSR it and get someone to spec you up.
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This thread was a good read, huge waste of money on numerous parts though. Maybe get your head out of the sand and listen to proper advice next time you wanna build a computer? You seem extremely stubborn and unable to comprehend your HUGE mistake with buying this build?

There's no way to defend your purchase, it is extremely inferior to anything Intel based in terms of gaming, and any multi threaded app Intel would annihilate this build with any of their i5 CPU's. Most games only use 2 cores/threads, therefore an i3 would outperform your CPU in ALL those situations, in 3+ core/threaded games your CPU will be roughly equal to or slightly worse than an i3 on average since it is much faster per core and also has hyper threading. There is literally NO reason to buy any AMD FX4 CPU's at the moment, other than if it was dirt cheap and the FX8's are nearly as rubbish apart from in a few select apps that their 8 threads are useful.

If I was you I would return the order, take the advice like a man and reorder the parts you should have ordered. Major face palm.
 
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