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So not going to force to stay if he isn't wanted but would rather stay it would seem.
Why are you confusing not wanting a player with accepting a huge bid, I honestly don't get it.

He's left all doors wide open there, and it is the smart move, says everything right should he stay, but also lets City know he's basically coming if they get a bid accepted.

Do you ever expect him to say I left for City because they tripled my wages and have very realistic chances of winning at home and in Europe?

In an era where players are criticised routinely for having far too much power, poor old Daniel Agger is made to feel unloved and forced out of the club he's so loyal to because they (potentially) accepted a massive bid for him. Really??

I'm not trying to be critical of Agger, he's done nothing wrong here, I just don't think Liverpool will be doing wrong either if they eventually cave. If we consider Berbatov to be the biggest example of badly treating a player (and I do think our treatment of him has been very disgraceful) Agger and Liverpool doesn't even slightly register anywhere on the same scale. It's simply another case of a club wanting to hold on to a player, but eventually the money on offer became too much. The desire to keep the player doesn't usually change, the ability to say no to the money is more often than not what gives.
 
money, age, injury history, harm the development of players we have, how does he fit into a formation with Valencia, Kagawa, Rooney, Nani?

There's a bundle of reasons.

22m for a 29 year old with a shaky injury record and a year left on his contract is silly money. We might get 2, maybe 3 top seasons out of him, and that's assuming no injuries. It's a ridiculous waste of money when the midfield and defence need strengthening more.

Only really missed a decent amount of games in 2009/10. Be a good signing for Utd IMO, £22m for his goal record from a rival wouldn't be bad at all.

Looks like Real are after Dembele if they don't sign Modric, hopefully doesn't make Utd bid for him!
 
Do you ever expect him to say I left for City because they tripled my wages and have very realistic chances of winning at home and in Europe?

Yeah, Torres was happy with it, at his new 'big' club.

Likewise, they may not actively want to sell you, but if you have a labelled price tag you may feel unwanted, I'm not confusing it with anything.


@Above, and whats the odds on that happening? Considering we are Liverpool and getting a bit close to deadline now. Whoever we wanted their club would be rubbing their hands together for how much they could mug us.
 
That's completely different, a player actively seeking a move is almost guaranteed to be far more honest and open. Those examples are rare though.

The Agger situation is more common, player is at the very least open to the idea of a move, but plays his cards very close to his chest until the time is right. Torres wasn't happy to stay, so forced it. If the move doesn't happen I do believe Agger would be happy to stay.

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And I'd sugest Agger needs to grow a pair if he really feels unwanted by Liverpool accepting £27m for him :p.
 
Like I said, remember the Gerrard thing in 05, Chelsea offering crazy money with one year left on his contract and he nearly left due to feeling unwanted.


Also you really think it would be good for us, or do you just fancy a giggle at who we will buy with that money?
 
Ballague reckons Sahin is going to Liverpool :mad:

Hopefully just more of his usual BS *prays*


No he doesn't. He said...


Guillem Balague ‏@GuillemBalague

Morning. Liverpool feel they have done enough to convince Sahin but nothing confirmed yet. Madrid want a resolution this week


Guillem Balague ‏@GuillemBalague

nothing confirmed on Tello and Sahin yet apart from Liverpool interest. would fans be able NOT to jump to conclusions? :-)
 
Likewise, they may not actively want to sell you, but if you have a labelled price tag you may feel unwanted, I'm not confusing it with anything.

You're quoting certain things Agger's said and taking them as gospel (not wanting to leave, not his decision etc) but you're ignoring the quote from him saying he's perfectly happy with the current situation at Liverpool.

Either believe everything he's saying or none at all. You can't pick and choose which parts you want to believe to suit your argument.
 
You're quoting certain things Agger's said and taking them as gospel (not wanting to leave, not his decision etc) but you're ignoring the quote from him saying he's perfectly happy with the current situation at Liverpool.

Either believe everything he's saying or none at all. You can't pick and choose which parts you want to believe to suit your argument.

Agger added: "I know there has been interest from Manchester City, but I don't know what Liverpool are responding to it. I am fine with my situation.

That one? Sounds to me like, I'm fine with my situation at being at Liverpool?
 
That one? Sounds to me like, I'm fine with my situation at being at Liverpool?

No. He mentions in another line that he wants to stay at Liverpool, there he's referring to the interest from City and how we're dealing with that. As he says, he's fine with the situation so if you're going to believe that he doesn't want to go, that it might not be his choice and so on, then you should believe that also.
 
Ha! That's getting very silly, £15m is a brilliantly inflated price :D

Maybe they are holding out for Spurs to enter the bidding as they are desperate for someone up front too and have a better chance of paying even more...

We dont need to sell, so we can hold out for the best possible price, and i love the fact that Moxey hasnt just bent over for Fletcher because he handed in a transfer request, and also that he is keeping the fans upto date with what is happening with Fletcher and Jarvis :)
 
No. He mentions in another line that he wants to stay at Liverpool, there he's referring to the interest from City and how we're dealing with that. As hoing to believe that he doesn't want to go, that it might not be e says, he's fine with the situation so if you're ghis choice and so on, then you should believe that also.

So you're saying what he means there is I am fine with the situation of possibly going to City? Wouldn't he say 'the' situation in that case? Reads to me that I'm fine with my situation (at Liverpool).
All very open to interpretation, considering english isn't his first language also.

I would believe if it what he said was set in stone and not said like that i.e. I'm fine with being offered to Man City but would also stay at Liverpool
 
Universidad de Chile striker Angelo Henriquez has reportedly travelled to England to undergo a medical with Manchester United.

However, rivals Manchester City are also said to be in talks for the highly-rated 18-year-old.

Henriquez was already in Europe, as he is with Chile's youth squad who are playing in numerous friendlies - including the Milk Cup in Northern Ireland.

United have been tracking Henriquez for months and he has already trained with the club but reports in England claim City want him too.

But Chilean sources say he is set to join United and Universidad de Chile's assistant manager Sebastian Beccacece was asked about Henriquez.

"No doubt he is a very useful player, with a good goalscoring talent," he told Radio ADN.

"But we have to count on the players that we have available, not the ones that aren't available."

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/7988784/
 
So you're saying what he means there is I am fine with the situation of possibly going to City? Wouldn't he say 'the' situation in that case? Reads to me that I'm fine with my situation (at Liverpool).
All very open to interpretation, considering english isn't his first language also.

I would believe if it what he said was set in stone and not said like that i.e. I'm fine with being offered to Man City but would also stay at Liverpool

What I'm saying is that he's fine with the fact that City have bid and how we're dealing with it - he's not, as you keep speculating, upset that the club might consider a huge offer for him.

And the fact that English isn't his first language shouldn't be a problem seeing as the interview was in Danish and that's just a translation of what's been said.
 
Well if Utd do get him, I cant imagine the RVP signing going any further.

should hopefully mean money being left over for a midfielder

(hmmm anyone heard anythign about how Fletcher's training has gone with the Scottish National team?)
 
Well if Utd do get him, I cant imagine the RVP signing going any further.

should hopefully mean money being left over for a midfielder

(hmmm anyone heard anythign about how Fletcher's training has gone with the Scottish National team?)

Henriquez? He's not ready for the first team at the moment and it won't be a particularly big fee, so I don't think it will affect that.
 
Like I said, remember the Gerrard thing in 05, Chelsea offering crazy money with one year left on his contract and he nearly left due to feeling unwanted.
Gerrard stayed, remained a vital part of the team and wasn't offered a poor contract as 'punishment' somewhere down the line. The Gerrard example shows that it's ultimately the players decision, not the clubs. And even if he did go, which is he more likely to say - A: I left because I they pay me more and have better chance of success, or B: I left because I felt unwanted? It's common sense, unless you want to be hated by the Liverpool fans, you go with option B, the truth doesn't come into it.

Some players do admit they want to move on to win things, don't care if they upset the old supporters, but even in those cases we don't believe them when they say money wasn't a factor in the decision.
Also you really think it would be good for us, or do you just fancy a giggle at who we will buy with that money?
It depends who you sign of course, the next step is just as vital as getting the money, if not more so because the club needs to progress to show that the gamble of selling him was worth it. Spend it poorly (or not at all) and it will turn out to be the wrong move.

But look where you finished last season, I don't think selling Agger will lose you too many points, even if he does stay you still have a huge amount of points to make up if you want to climb the table. That's not going to be done keeping the defence the same, the only way you can do that is by improving the midfield and attack.

Yes I'll laugh if they do spend it poorly, but I'm looking at it objectively here, spend it on one or two half decent players (in the areas that will make a bigger difference to the current team) and the only way is up.
 
Angelo Henriquez sounds a very good player from what I've read. Hopefully City don't steal him. ;)

From what I can tell he's been pretty much a United player for a while now, City trying to steal him is either just lazy journalism or City's lazy scouting system just going after United targets - lets be honest either could be true :p

I doubt his signing would effect RVP though
 
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