** ALL NEW (WITH RULES) Summer Transfer Window 2012/2013 Season Rumours/Signings **

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Look at Madrid's transfers out ;) Sniejder, Huntelaar, Robben to name a few, I imagine Kaka will be next. Some football players do actually want to play and if RM sign Modric that will only push him further down the pecking order.

Real moved most of those players on not those players forcing their way out. Robben was injury prone, Sneijder is still vastly over rated, and Huntelaar didn't really fit in great with Spanish football but ultimately those guys were mostly sold to fund buying other players(well partially) Sahin is one of those players Real see as a long term future, and Sahin doesn't have any interest in leaving and frankly, finishing 6th with Liverpool isn't going to change that when he'll be going back to a team that could have just won a title, or two.

Fact is ultimately that Sahin might be crap for half a season getting back sharpness after having not played for so long(that would be the case without an injury, with an injury that could take longer, effect his overall fitness and he might be tackle shy for all we know). The problem is you aren't loaning in Ronaldo who just played an epic season and there is no reason to think he won't be brilliant. You're loaning in a guy that has barely played for 16 months or so, hasn't been first team and has had a serious injury.

The only way I'd do something like that as a manager is a pay to play loan. if he is injured for half the season or not ready for first team, you end up paying 20k a week, if he plays half the games in the season you pay 50k a week, if he breaks breaks 2/3rd's of the games you're on the hook for 80k of his wages.

Especially as, wait how did that last guy Liverpool bought who had spent the entire previous season injured work out? It was good wasn't it, great price, loads of appearances, helped the club out immensely? ;) Any player is an injury risk but there is a reason Real don't think he's ready to start games for them, or be a reliable sub, or play the easy games this season for them to get back up to speed, that alone makes it a very risky bet.


Anyway, there is a reason why for the past two months I've been saying, positive signings, rumours are great, but I can't see Wenger actually replacing Diaby/Rosicky/Walcott as he loves them. The Navas thing sounds like its gone away, Wenger has gone on the record saying he wants Walcott to sign, Sahin fell through, M'villa sounds like a "me'h" option at best due to attitude, cost, wages and not having seen him play particularly well so far. Which means a potential Podolski, Areta, Santi, M'villa, Navas line up once again becomes a likely, Podolski, Arteta, Santi, Diaby, Walcott line up, sure there is still quality, its the worst players that effect games more than the best. Arsenal keep seeming to miss this point, Arshavin is fantastic but at the time our defence was the only problem with the team and we needed to get rid of the worst players and buy even average players, would have made far far more of a difference to the team.
 
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Fergie is a visionary. I would have been more than a little worried with Rooney out if we didn't have RvP.
 
Fergie is a visionary. I would have been more than a little worried with Rooney out if we didn't have RvP.

Yes.
Signing someone with an awful injury history in case your best player gets injured is simply genius.
Luckily for Man.U. that's not why they signed RVP and they still have 2 of the best forward line since 1804 in reserve.
 
This talk of £5m (I've not seen a decent source report it though) could possibly include his wages; i.e. instead of us paying Sahin a weekly/monthly wage, we pay Real a lump sum to cover our share of his wages and they carry on paying him as usual.

Not sure on the legalities but that might make sense for tax reasons, in Spain the top tax rate is only 43% compared to 50% over here. I think (not sure) that only kicks it above €600k as well compared to £150k over here.

As for forward lines we all know the greatest forward line of the millennium was this one:

Viduka
Smith
Fowler
Keane
Bridges
Kewell
 
Look at Madrid's transfers out ;) Sniejder, Huntelaar, Robben to name a few, I imagine Kaka will be next. Some football players do actually want to play and if RM sign Modric that will only push him further down the pecking order.

And that's why I said if he does well. We all know the ability he has, if he can get a good run of form this season, I'd say he's good enough to get a place in Madrid's starting line up, he was just unlucky with getting injured last season.
 
He wont go, Unless there is a massive bust up ala-Beckham.

I wouldn't think he took to kindly to being dropped the other day.

Though people seem to forget, he looked COMPLETELY unfit in the Euro's as well, and he was completely gash(ed) then as well. He seemingly didn't bother training for the Euro's, nor the start of the season properly, he's not been fit since the end of last season. But the idea of getting 50m for an out of form player who at his best isn't even remotely close to the best striker in the world is utterly laughable.

Utd SHOULD have cashed in when he was making waves and wanting a new contract. In good form, and with a few clubs spending silly that was their only chance of a big fee, and it would have been well above what he was really worth. Instead of 30-40mil and buying a HUGE player or a couple of players they ended up paying Rooney an extra what, 3-4mil a year. They also gave Rooney a contract that basically wouldn't be beaten elsewhere... and seems to now realise it doesn't matter how hard he works, he has his awesome contract. Giggs probably had a word with him and told him to slow down, not burn out and only try hard for a couple months before his next contract deal ;)
 
Cash in and buy lewandawski?

Thing is with rooney, he is on the front of nearly every fifa game. he is the face of english football. He must generate so much income and attention for UTD its difficult to part with him. That he knocks in the odd goal or two obviously helps as well.

But he has looked particularly bad. he has become stale, doesnt seem to think he needs to run about any more or be able to take people on and that the team will lay something right on his front doorstep (not a brown bag). Thankfully we have at least RVP to keep us afloat as previously our attack was rooney + the inconsisent and unable to lead the line duo of welbeck and chicharito.
 
Mancini says Man Utd have the best strikeforce in World football here. Although Johnny is presumably referring to the quote referenced in HangTime's post here.

Villa - Messi - Pedro

Ron - Benzema - Di Maria

Nani - RVP - Valancia

Mancini is just sucking up to Fergie like last season again. Trying to play some sort of mind games with him.

If we sale Rooney, keep RVP for a few years then look for a new striker, we could manage that... but.. if we sell Rooney and RVP gets injured... yeah.
 
Yes.
Signing someone with an awful injury history in case your best player gets injured is simply genius.
Luckily for Man.U. that's not why they signed RVP and they still have 2 of the best forward line since 1804 in reserve.

:D...Utd fans best hope RVP doesnt get injured now or else they are pretty much screwed:p
 
Yes.
Signing someone with an awful injury history in case your best player gets injured is simply genius.
Luckily for Man.U. that's not why they signed RVP and they still have 2 of the best forward line since 1804 in reserve.

I thought you might have caught onto the slightly less than serious nature of my post but obviously not.....

No one in the history of football has bought a world class striker in case their current striker gets a long term layoff so I would hazard a guess that Fergie didn't foresee this and buy RvP for that reason.
 
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