Suicide - why?

I'd very much like to rip your throat out.
I've lost many friends to suicide over the years, most of them ex soldiers, Not one of them were what you'd call a "pussy", blokes that had done numerous tours of both Iraq and afghan.
For the most part, we never really found out why they did it, we can only assume that they were suffering from PTSD.
Like most soldiers, none actually showed or spoke of their problems to anyone, not even the closest of friends.
Dimple i know you said not to but i feel it would be wrong if i didn't.
My deepest condolences to you and your family.

The harsh truth is, you'll probably never know why. Just like the profound swan post earlier, people are amazing at hiding inner turmoil.

Speaking as a member of the healthcare team, I've seen suicide, I've seen those with mental health problems, so to the person who said suicide is for pussies, what an ignorant piece of crap. You don't know the illnesses inside someones head, illnesses you can't see, voices that are constantly abusing them, the feeling of worthlessness and helplessness. Your post has really annoyed me.

Opinion, deal with it.
 
people are amazing at hiding inner turmoil.

A lot of people don't understand why victims of suicide don't talk about the turmoil they are feeling inside, but truth be told when you actually feel really depressed and suicidal not a lot of people around you actually want to listen to that, not outside of a professional or a volunteer agency, that's what annoys me, someone commits suicide and everyone says "oh but he/she should have came to me for help, they should said something" ******** :rolleyes:
 
Which is fine.

My opinion of you is that your an ignorant fool.

Deal with it.

I have. ;)

Takes more of a man to end his life than you are.

Sure, takes a big man to end himself than deal with his problems.

What a horrible person.
Let's hope you never hit that dark place.
However, thinking about it, when I was young I thought that way but I did grow up.

I've hit that dark place and I dealt with it. If I were to hit it again, then I would deal with it when it comes.

Now now, let's all not get upset over an opinion on my way of thinking in life - also let's not assume that I didn't know people who have committed suicide, because obviously that's the case isn't it? :rolleyes:
 
Been through exactly the same thing with my brother, 18 years ago. Plus, I was the one who found him. Like you, no note, we didn't have Facebook, mobiles, internet or email back in those days. The coroner gave an inquiry ruling of accidental death because lots of evidence pointed to the fact that he just wanted to see what it felt like to have something around his neck rather than actually setting out to kill himself.

Try to maybe take some comfort from that if you can, but you'll never know the full reasons, ever.
 
Sure, takes a big man to end himself than deal with his problems.

Why is being a 'big man' important?
You're making the assumption that the problems can be dealt with.
You think staying alive despite not wanting to is the right thing to do - now why would your opinion be important to him?
 
I have to be honest guys, saw the thread this morning, and felt awful, I have OCD and depression and some other stuff, so I know what the hopelessness feels like, I'm off some of my tablets that I've been on for well over a decade, I'm changing my life, it's finding the right people for support. Tablets (for me) masked the condition, since coming off one set of tablets in feb this year, I've been accepted in the OU for a degree in physics, signed up to a dating site, getting out and meeting people, my mind is clear for the first time in my life, the fog has gone! People keep saying to me, it's nice to have the "old" you back, the fact is that there was no "old" me to be called back, I like the "new" me the one that likes to do things now. Not the one being stuck inside scared of what people might think of me, to be truthful I just do not care anymore, that acceptance is the first step, life doesn't need to be complicated, or to be taken too seriously. I am but one person that with help is the process of becoming the "new" me. There is hope, talking is the first step.

I wish people well.

Time for fun now.
 
swifty55 who have you lost to suicide because it seems like it was someone close who you cared about very much

Someone very close...

I have a story to tell but i won't bother now just to be trolled by Swifty55.

I'm not trolling or going to troll you. I've had experiences with it, I may have put my opinion bluntly - but that's just the way I think now.

Why is being a 'big man' important?
You're making the assumption that the problems can be dealt with.
You think staying alive despite not wanting to is the right thing to do - now why would your opinion be important to him?

It was a reply to a post 'Takes more of a man to end his life' - in which I totally disagree.

You're making the assumption that problems can't. All problems can be dealt with one way or another - I just don't agree with suicide being one of them.

You think killing yourself is the right thing to do?
 
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I have to be honest guys, saw the thread this morning, and felt awful, I have OCD and depression and some other stuff, so I know what the hopelessness feels like, I'm off some of my tablets that I've been on for well over a decade, I'm changing my life, it's finding the right people for support. Tablets (for me) masked the condition, since coming off one set of tablets in feb this year, I've been accepted in the OU for a degree in physics, signed up to a dating site, getting out and meeting people, my mind is clear for the first time in my life, the fog has gone! People keep saying to me, it's nice to have the "old" you back, the fact is that there was no "old" me to be called back, I like the "new" me the one that likes to do things now. Not the one being stuck inside scared of what people might think of me, to be truthful I just do not care anymore, that acceptance is the first step, life doesn't need to be complicated, or to be taken too seriously. I am but one person that with help is the process of becoming the "new" me. There is hope, talking is the first step.

I wish people well.

Time for fun now.

Grats - good luck in life and keep it going! :)
 
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