7850 to 660Ti - Weird situation

[SkodaMart]

Don't know, but i do play World Of Tanks and my FPS are solid 60 with my working ATI card.

and for the record here is my reply from WoT!!

Hello Commander,


Thank you for your feedback. Our developers are aware of the issues with these maps and hope to get this issue resolved as quickly as possible. We apologise for the inconvenience and hope you continue to enjoy our game!


Best of luck commander!





Best regards,
Michael Johnson

Wargaming Support Service
https://support.worldoftanks.eu

If you ATi bunch are happy to live with your head in the sand then good luck to you.
All I say is try the green team and you will never go back.
It is great that ATi exist, as otherwise nVidia would have a Monopoly and that would be a terrible thing for our hobby.

 

[tommybhoy]

And how the hell do you prove a card is gubbed to send it back for warranty when it will run most benchmarks perfectly?

Either the drivers, the card or whatever were gubbed

Can I request a DSR for the following order number please:

Order no. OC1******

I was originally considering returning it due to excessive coil whine, but during the first real gaming session it started artifacting:

The above games all@stock settings with temps not going above 65c.

I don't want the hassles of rma'ing and possibly getting the card returned as fault free, so would just prefer to DSR.

I felt obliged to let you know about the artifacting in case of someone else getting the card.

Above card was still capable of playing all those titles, the fact that they were jumping about everywhere had something to do with, being GUBBED?

Should I have kept it because essentially it could still play them?

Anyway, it's becoming a waste of time, you achieved what you set out to do handsomely-pouring grief on AMD and crying out for users to buy Nvidia, only problem being, you look foolish trying to blame a GUBBED card for for poor performance-or basically being made by AMD.

The problem has gone away but putting the green team back in my case.
I am all for value for money, hence my user name!

However 'cheap' is useless if it doesn't work as well!

If you ATi bunch are happy to live with your head in the sand then good luck to you.
All I say is try the green team and you will never go back.
It is great that ATi exist, as otherwise nVidia would have a Monopoly and that would be a terrible thing for our hobby.

Eventually, your true colours shone through, but don't throw anything at the monitor when you read the next bit, you won't like it at all.

AMD have had the right effect!

Today over 100pc of 7950 sold and over 250pc of 7800 series in a day - WOW!

How many 660Ti's?

Just 29pc today, so quite a bit lower, but not so bad if they sustain that daily.

Still at £30 or so less they'd fly!

That's what happens when you sell a cheaper card, not a cheap one.

 

[SkodaMart]

Yes, I too could have taken some lovely screen shots, it proves nothing.
I tried ATi at my expense and regret it.
When I bought the card I specifically asked if I would have problems with the games I am currently playing, The Witcher 2 and WoT.
I did have problems.
I tried ATi and for me it wasn't as good as nVidia. It is as simple as that and those are my true colours!
I will wait now until the prices of the 660Ti fall significantly then put a 2nd one in.
Unless you game at high resolution (which I don't) 1080p here.
The 660ti is the best bang for buck card currently available, even though I feel it is currently overpriced.

 

[Rusty0611]

The 660ti is the best bang for buck card currently available

It isn't.

It's actually one of the worse.

 

[SkodaMart]

It isn't.

It's actually one of the worse.

How do you figure that? It gives slightly lower performance than the GTX 670.

 

[Rusty0611]

How do you figure that? It gives slightly lower performance than the GTX 670.

Because the 7850 and 7950 offer far greater value for money at their respective price points and the 7970 offers better value for money than the 680.

The 660Ti has a 192 bit bus which sees performance drop off quite sharply when AA is applied.

I don't know how to be any clearer:

you... had... a... faulty... card...

Nothing more; nothing less.

It doesn't suddenly make the 660Ti a card which is great value for money because the better performing 7950 that you received was faulty .

 

[SkodaMart]

This represents MY personal findings quite accurately

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_660_ti_windforce_oc_review,1.html

OK, lets look at this another way.

Who has bought a 660 Ti and been disappointed with it?

 

[Rusty0611]

This represents MY personal findings quite accurately

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_660_ti_windforce_oc_review,1.html

I don't know how to be any clearer:

you... had... a... faulty... card...

Nothing more; nothing less.

It doesn't suddenly make the 660Ti a card which is great value for money because the better performing 7950 that you received was faulty .

Repeated for truth.

The 670 point of comparison is a little sketchy as the memory overclock is low but the 660Ti vs 7950 is a good one:

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/08/23/galaxy_gtx_660_ti_gc_oc_vs_670_hd_7950/3

Considering the two cards are roughly the same price it's not even close on pure performance terms.

I will make it completely clear: you have purchased a worse card on paper and a worse card when it goes into your machine on the basis of a faulty 7950.

 

[SkodaMart]

I will make it completely clear: you have purchased a worse card on paper and a worse card when it goes into your machine on the basis of a faulty 7950.

And I will make it completely clear: On paper the Astra VXR is a great car

My card was not confirmed as faulty. For what I use and the games I play the GTX 660TI is a better card.

I will never buy ATi **** again.

 

[SkodaMart]

Quote:

"The GeForce GTX 660 Ti is a card that is downright perfect for those gaming at 1920x1080/1200. Your performance will be near perfect and completely in balance with the games of 2012. In Battlefield 3 you are at roughly 45 frames per second on average with 4x AntiAliasing, 16xAF at Ultra quality settings. That's in 1920x1200 by the way. If we take Anno 2070 at the same resolution with the same settings in the very best quality we average out at 70+ FPS. Crysis 2 with the High Quality texture pack in DX11 at Ultra settings .. roughly 50 FPS. These are the scores that matter."

This is my final post on the subject. The GTX 660 Ti is a great card. I am happy with it and that is all that matters.

For those of you with ATi, enjoy your cards just as I will mine.

 

[SkodaMart]

@Rusty0611 What the hell are you even posting in this discussion for?
I've just seen your sig, the 660Ti wouldn't have a hope in hell of running your monitors.

Enjoy your GTX 680 Sli setup - Haha, money to burn!!

 

[humbug]

Quote:

"The GeForce GTX 660 Ti is a card that is downright perfect for those gaming at 1920x1080/1200. Your performance will be near perfect and completely in balance with the games of 2012. In Battlefield 3 you are at roughly 45 frames per second on average with 4x AntiAliasing, 16xAF at Ultra quality settings. That's in 1920x1200 by the way. If we take Anno 2070 at the same resolution with the same settings in the very best quality we average out at 70+ FPS. Crysis 2 with the High Quality texture pack in DX11 at Ultra settings .. roughly 50 FPS. These are the scores that matter."

This is my final post on the subject. The GTX 660 Ti is a great card. I am happy with it and that is all that matters.

For those of you with ATi, enjoy your cards just as I will mine.

My average BF3 gaming performance is 55 - 60, ranging from Min 40 to Max 100 on Ultra preset, nothing wrong with that is there?

The GTX 660TI "like all Nvidia cards" IS a great card, but no better than AMD cards, just way over priced, while, and i say again "Nvidia are great cards" not worth any more money than AMD cards, or if you like Nvidia can charge a little more for Physx, but no more than a tenner.

That's all the point that's being made here, can you not agree on that?

 

[Gregster]

And I will make it completely clear: On paper the Astra VXR is a great car

My card was not confirmed as faulty. For what I use and the games I play the GTX 660TI is a better card.

I will never buy ATi **** again.

Price for performance, you chose wrong. The 660TI is a good card but the price isn't a good price. The 7850 is a good card and a good price. The 7950 (working one) is a good card and a very good price.

My average BF3 gaming performance is 55 - 60, ranging from Min 40 to max 100 on ultra preset, nothing wrong with that is there?

The GTX 660TI "like all Nvidia cards" IS a great card, but no better than AMD cards, just way over priced, while, and i say again "Nvidia are grat cards" not worth any more money than AMD cards, or if you like Nvidia can charge a little more for Physx, but no more than a tenner.

That's all the point that's being made here, can you not agree on that?

When you bought the 7870, it was well over priced...Short memory?

 

[humbug]

When you bought the 7870, it was well over priced...Short memory?

I paid £240 for it, it was at that time one of the most expensive ones, along with the MSI Hawk.


Like all AMD cards it was more expensive on release, no one is arguing AMD card's were not over priced in the early day's, they were.
The point is today they offer more bang for £, what do you think the chances are GTX 6## cards are going to come down any time soon? look at the prices of the GTX 580, still.

 

[Gregster]

I paid £240 for it, it was at that time one of the most expensive ones, along with the MSI Hawk.


Like all AMD cards it was more expensive on release, no one is arguing AMD card's were not over priced in the early day's, they were.
The point is today they offer more bang for £, what do you think the chances are GTX 6## cards are going to come down any time soon? look at the prices of the GTX 580, still.

You harp on in thread after thread that Nvidia is too expensive and yet you paid £240 for a mid range card? Don't do as I do, do as I say is a little 2 faced don't you think?

 

[humbug]

You harp on in thread after thread that Nvidia is too expensive and yet you paid £240 for a mid range card? Don't do as I do, do as I say is a little 2 faced don't you think?

It was £280 before i bought it.

£240 when the only competition for it was a significantly slower GTX 580 being at the time £300.
Yes i bought it, it was the best value at the time.

 

[Gregster]

It was £280 before i bought it.

£240 when the only competition for it was a significantly slower GTX 580 being at the time £300.
Yes i bought it, it was the best value at the time.

You still paid well over the top for a card that is mid range. Harsh facts I know. Reality wise, you could have waited and seen how the market was playing out. I advise anyone considering paying for a 660TI to go for the wiser choice of a 7850/7950 or if they are 3D Vision tied, a 670. If Nvidia drops those prices, I will look at the price/performance ratio's again and advise accordingly. I admit I am an Nvidia fanboy but it does not stop me advising others on a sensible choice.

 

[Rusty0611]

For what I use and the games I play the GTX 660TI is a better card.

I will never buy ATi **** again.

I'm not debating your outcome - I'm questioning your logic. The 660Ti isn't a better card than a 7950. To say otherwise is just factually incorrect.

@Rusty0611 What the hell are you even posting in this discussion for?
I've just seen your sig, the 660Ti wouldn't have a hope in hell of running your monitors.

Enjoy your GTX 680 Sli setup - Haha, money to burn!!

I'm posting in this discussion because last time I checked you're allowed to post in a discussion regarding a graphics card that you don't have.

I am enjoying my set-up as are you. But I'm just making sure you're aware you've paid more for a worse card. There isn't much in it but as a point of principle that point stands.

 

[humbug]

You still paid well over the top for a card that is mid range. Harsh facts I know. Reality wise, you could have waited and seen how the market was playing out. I advise anyone considering paying for a 660TI to go for the wiser choice of a 7850/7950 or if they are 3D Vision tied, a 670. If Nvidia drops those prices, I will look at the price/performance ratio's again and advise accordingly. I admit I am an Nvidia fanboy but it does not stop me advising others on a sensible choice.

Sure, i had it on watch for a while, it dropped to £240, i saw my chance and grabbed it, looking at the silly price of the GTX 580 it was pretty obvious the GTX 660ti was going to be more than that, and i was right. it was literally 2 weeks before the GTX 660ti release and i didn't think it would come down even more, i was itching to replace my 6950 and so i went for it.

My only regret is not hanging on for another 3 or 4 weeks to get it at £210, or a 7950 for £250.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, today you don't need hindsight, the prices are laid bare.

 

[Gregster]

Sure, i had it on watch for a while, it dropped to £240, i saw my chance and grabbed it, looking at the silly price of the GTX 580 it was pretty obvious the GTX 660ti was going to be more than that, and i was right. it was literally 2 weeks before the GTX 660ti release and i didn't think it would come down even more, i was itching to replace my 6950 and so i went for it.

My only regret is not hanging on for another 3 or 4 weeks to get it at £210, or a 7950 for £250.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, today you don't need hindsight, the prices are laid bare.

Fair play. I do believe within 2 weeks, Nvidia will lower the prices of the 660TI and 660 and maybe even the 670/80 and if I am wrong, you can tell me I am