I think it's more an overflow from when the TVs literally cost over a grand. People still say it now though, despite the fact almost anyone can afford a large TV of poor/average quality.
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I think it's more an overflow from when the TVs literally cost over a grand. People still say it now though, despite the fact almost anyone can afford a large TV of poor/average quality.
Oh and dont forget a tattoo on their forehead while your at it.
Not everyone is a scrounger there are families in tax credits would you give them your scraps too?
You need to stop reading the Daily Mail to be honest.
I don't read the daily mail.
Maybe it was a wider generalisation than intended but people who "live" on benefits should not have the luxuries of those who work.
People who emigrate to england should be entitled to zero (including NHS).
As for the 42" tv Maybe if they had no tv they would get of there ***** and get a job.
Stop being a have not.
Why should people who emigrate not be entitled to anything, including the NHS? What have they done that precludes them from it, solely for being an immigrant?
What's so special about a 42" TV that you felt the need to specifically mention it? They're not particularly expensive, in fact, they've massively come down in price to the point where a lot of them aren't much more than a 32", not that it matters.
You do realise that "luxuries" are highly subjective too, don't you? Stop being such a baby.
The 42" tv was someone elses example earlier in the thread if you read it.
Why should the working people in the UK have to pay towards others who are not so hard working?
People who have not / will not put money into the system should not get anything out of it. If immigrants are putting into the system then after x ammount of time they would be allowed the perks of the UK benefits but not without putting in first.
Many things in life are like this put time / effort it get the rewards.
The fact of the matter is it is a massive drain on the hard working people of the UK.
How is what I said subjective? Dont work then dont get simple.
A rare bit of sense for this place - more people need to realise it
It's all part of a demonization process that appears to be going according to plan.
A rare bit of sense for this place - more people need to realise it
It's all part of a demonization process that appears to be going according to plan.
Yup, divide and conquer. Tried and tested for thousands of years. Keeps the masses fighting with each while the super wealthy loot the coffers, with bank bailouts, tax dodging, privatising profits while socialising loses, lucrative government contracts and the list could go on.
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I assume from that you are self employed then, so why didn't you put aside the tax element of your earnings as you received it throughout the year?
You are supposed to live off your net earnings not your gross.
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Ok, lets implement your simple solution.
So now we have 2 million unemployed not receiving any state support, with no ability to house or feed themselves...hmm, I can see an explosion in the crime rate.
So what are you going to do with them all?
(Please say lock them all up....or even better shoot them all.....please!)
I think the general concensus is to turn a blind eye, bury your head in the sand and pretend it isn't happening
They get food tokens, gas/electricity tokens and still get housing benefits just no money.
I also stated people who have been long term unemployed or people who have emigrated to the UK without ever contributing before.
How is that going to change them being a drain on the hard working people of the UK? Just because it is a token, you think that doesn't cost anything
...it is still paid for with the same amount of tax money...In fact now they are restricted to only buying food (No VAT) or utilities (Reduced rate 5% VAT) they are contributing even less to the economy as they aren't paying the 20% VAT on their lovely new flat screen TVs and Sky TV package! Then you have the knock on effects of lower profits for TV manufacturers and Sky, thus paying lower corporation taxes....oh my it just gets worse!
You do realise that immigrants really don't come over here to sit on benefits they come here to work. I believe the last report I read stated ~0.6% of immigrants were on unemployment benefits - and that could easily be they were working and then lost their jobs.
Now, what you should really be highlighting is even when they do work and pay taxes, all it takes is to have one child born (and I think the quote from Mary Beard re: The hospital in Boston was that the maternity ward was still only open due to the polish workers!) or one operation at the hospital and they have already taken more out of the system than they have (or generally will) put into the system.
At least get your basis for your ranting somewhere based in a factual perspective!
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While ADHD is oftern mis-diagnosed (plenty of research on that knocking around) - I'm surprised to know we have some many doctors in the forum (who are all able to dismiss the condition in its entirety without even knowing a single thing about the case in question).
Stop reading the daily mail & stop listening to stupid friends - I'd also suggest you save your "rage" (lol) for bigger concerns.
Stop reading the daily mail & stop listening to stupid friends - I'd also suggest you save your "rage" (lol) for bigger concerns.
What costs does an ADHD child incur? Ive seen first hand that childminders will only tolerate so much. A truly difficult child will be hard to have looked after and costs more.
If the OP genuinely thinks that living on benefits is a greater way to better himself than working for a living then thats the biggest problem in this thread.
Truly worrying youd consider a JSA/DLA lifestyle desirable if you could work. Embarassing really.
And any parent wishing to falsely state their child is disabled when they are not is truly sickening.
Say the child wanted to be an RAF pilot or the likes when they grow into their teens and find now their medical history could ruin their future for a couple of quid?
If the OP genuinely thinks that living on benefits is a greater way to better himself than working for a living then thats the biggest problem in this thread.
Truly worrying youd consider a JSA/DLA lifestyle desirable if you could work. Embarassing really.
And any parent wishing to falsely state their child is disabled when they are not is truly sickening.
Say the child wanted to be an RAF pilot or the likes when they grow into their teens and find now their medical history could ruin their future for a couple of quid?
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How is that going to change them being a drain on the hard working people of the UK? Just because it is a token, you think that doesn't cost anything
In fact now they are restricted to only buying food (No VAT) or utilities (Reduced rate 5% VAT) they are contributing even less to the economy as they aren't paying the 20% VAT on their lovely new flat screen TVs and Sky TV package! Then you have the knock on effects of lower profits for TV manufacturers and Sky, thus paying lower corporation taxes....oh my it just gets worse!
They cant buy crap pay subscriptions to services that they dont need with tokens so they could live on less. If things like sky, mobile contracts, broadband, running cars ect can be done by people who have claimed for long periods of time then they are getting too much money. If its lowerd and only given to them in tokens then we would save a fortune. They would also want a job as the shame of spending the tokens would be enough to make some people get a job.
You do realise that immigrants really don't come over here to sit on benefits they come here to work. I believe the last report I read stated ~0.6% of immigrants were on unemployment benefits - and that could easily be they were working and then lost their jobs.
Now, what you should really be highlighting is even when they do work and pay taxes, all it takes is to have one child born (and I think the quote from Mary Beard re: The hospital in Boston was that the maternity ward was still only open due to the polish workers!) or one operation at the hospital and they have already taken more out of the system than they have (or generally will) put into the system.
At least get your basis for your ranting somewhere based in a factual perspective!
I never said they did I said they shouldnt be able too. Also things like NHS should not be free to people as soon as they arrive into the coutnry neither should schooling for there children.
If someone coming to the Uk to live can not support themselves or family then they should be forced to leave.
You just agreed with me saying that its easy for them to take out of the system via health care.
It needs to all be stopped so the uk isnt such a place thats so easy to live without working for people from the uk or anywhere else.
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