Porsche Owners Thread - If you own one or just like or hate them! :)

Kingy said:
Ah ok, so by implication, does that mean that Porsche will put a warranty on (or honour an existing warranty) on a car that has over-rev alarms in range 1, 2 and even 3?
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Yes because they won't damage the engine and these engines were designed to be driven, not to be garage queens or stuck in traffic jams.

Being serious now I'd not buy a car that had no ignitions in range 1 or 2, because it would mean the DME had either being tampered with or the engine had never being pushed.

But of course it does not make up for the fact the earlier Porsche engines had design faults, IMS, bore scoring due to lack of cooling etc. etc.

It is why as soon as I got mine, 3rd radiator was installed to keep it cool and I change the oil every 5000-6000 miles. In a few weeks I am going to get the bores checked, when I purchased the car the bores with un-marked, I am hoping 20k miles later they are still spotless. :)
 
Ooooh, just realised I forgot to ask you re your shifter... I went and had a long chat with the parts guy at OPC Leicester while my new bits were being fitted... I sat in a 997.1 GT3 (think I need to take a class on how to get in/out of buckets :o), and the gear change felt "shorter" and more mechanical than mine which seemed to tally with what you said re metal bushings. The guy looked up the VIN numbers of both that GT3 & my car, and the shifter has an identical part number? Very odd... I don't suppose you have a part number for yours that I can compare do you?
 
Gibbo said:
Yes because they won't damage the engine and these engines were designed to be driven, not to be garage queens or stuck in traffic jams.

Being serious now I'd not buy a car that had no ignitions in range 1 or 2, because it would mean the DME had either being tampered with or the engine had never being pushed.

But of course it does not make up for the fact the earlier Porsche engines had design faults, IMS, bore scoring due to lack of cooling etc. etc.

It is why as soon as I got mine, 3rd radiator was installed to keep it cool and I change the oil every 5000-6000 miles. In a few weeks I am going to get the bores checked, when I purchased the car the bores with un-marked, I am hoping 20k miles later they are still spotless. :)
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You really ought to do a proper log of everything you've done to yours... Where did the 3rd radiator go? how many are there as standard? 2? one in each front corner?
 
You don't have to redline the engine to push it.

Like it or not the market is pretty sensitive to rev ranges, at least on all but the proper hot Porsches (GT3s etc). Same seems to go for mileage - would-be Porsche owners seem to expect the cars to have done Ferrari mileage.

My car didn't have any ignitions in RR2 or above, and I drove it enthusiastically. Different strokes for different folks?
 
Jonnycoupe said:
3rd to 4th gear change that actually ends up being 3rd to 2nd and buzzes the engine.

Normally the sound of gravel as bits of block and conrod bounce under the car :(
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That's quite scary, as if you're driving in a spirited manner, a lot of twists and turns meaning a lot of quick gear changes, I'd imagine that's not exactly impossible to do!
 
Steedie said:
That's quite scary, as if you're driving in a spirited manner, a lot of twists and turns meaning a lot of quick gear changes, I'd imagine that's not exactly impossible to do!
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I might have got this completely backwards, but isn't that what cost WillGill his engine?

That's a point, I haven't seem him around for a while? Has anyone heard from him recently, IIRC he was going through a rough patch?
 
Kingy said:
Ooooh, just realised I forgot to ask you re your shifter... I went and had a long chat with the parts guy at OPC Leicester while my new bits were being fitted... I sat in a 997.1 GT3 (think I need to take a class on how to get in/out of buckets :o), and the gear change felt "shorter" and more mechanical than mine which seemed to tally with what you said re metal bushings. The guy looked up the VIN numbers of both that GT3 & my car, and the shifter has an identical part number? Very odd... I don't suppose you have a part number for yours that I can compare do you?
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No no, remember I said GT3 997.2 shifter.

997.1 GT3 still uses plastic bushes, they upgraded to metal bushings in 2010 997.2 GT3, feels even better. So ask for the shifter for a 2010 gen2 GT3, thats a different part number, same price. :)
 
Gibbo said:
No no, remember I said GT3 997.2 shifter.

997.1 GT3 still uses plastic bushes, they upgraded to metal bushings in 2010 997.2 GT3, feels even better. So ask for the shifter for a 2010 gen2 GT3, thats a different part number, same price. :)
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Ahhhh, I'd missed the .2 bit... Part# 99742401091? Interesting, I'll look out for a normal SSK equipped car & a 997.2 GT3 and go and pester him again before I make my mind up...

Doesn't explain why the gear change on the 997.1 GT3 felt different to mine despite an identical part number though?
 
Durzel said:
You don't have to redline the engine to push it.

Like it or not the market is pretty sensitive to rev ranges, at least on all but the proper hot Porsches (GT3s etc). Same seems to go for mileage - would-be Porsche owners seem to expect the cars to have done Ferrari mileage.

My car didn't have any ignitions in RR2 or above, and I drove it enthusiastically. Different strokes for different folks?
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To be honest, I intend on keeping it for another year or two at which point it will probably fetch 20kish privately.

Though my rev ranges are nothing out of the ordinary from others posted up on PH, Rennlist etc.

The fact Porsche put warranties on them, shows they are not concerned, also most buying Porsches don't even know about the DME report, even some garages are a bit unsure until you speak to the right person.

When I purchased my car I asked for the report, garage selling it had no idea, ask Porsche and got through to someone who knew what it was and got the report. Nothing in 4 or above, so was happy as the advice I was given, range 1 and 2 is fine, no worries, 3 is slight concern if recent and if 4 or above potentially walk away, 5/6 definetely walk away!

I purchased on spec/condition, DME was a check to ensure nothing in 4 or above and for me there was not so happy. Was more interested in the 111 point check to be honest and what the car needed or would soon need to obtain a warranty. :)

Touch wood its being a superb car and one I absolutely love driving, it shall no doubt be sold as a part-ex at which point DME report is completely irrelevent anyway, unless there is something in 4 and above.
 
Kingy said:
Ahhhh, I'd missed the .2 bit... Part# 99742401091? Interesting, I'll look out for a normal SSK equipped car & a 997.2 GT3 and go and pester him again before I make my mind up...

Doesn't explain why the gear change on the 997.1 GT3 felt different to mine despite an identical part number though?
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The cables, the GT3's don't have a short shifter, they have different cables which shortern the throw or something like that.

So when you put the GT3 shifter in a Carrera the throw remains un-changed, hence why the Carrera and gen1 GT3 use the same part number. The gen2 GT3 got the upgraded shifter with metal bushing, but again throw was un-changed.

So in the GT3 the shorter throw is from the different cables, you can install porsche cup cables in a Carrera, but it adds a lot of noise supposedly. I love mine, if your local or coming to the rolling road, you can have a feel. :)
 
The GT3 box is lovely to use and the pedals really support heel/toe action but it is still possible to hook the wrong cog, I did it a couple of times but somehow managed to resist lifting the clutch!
 
Housey got any decent videos of the correct lines in a 911 around Oulton please as I'm going to the RS day. :D
 
Couple of mates going for it at one of the RS days. Camera car driver used to race in British Supercup, chap in front races a Lotus. Both amateurs but quick and both in 997 GT3 RS's, camera car is Gen 1 and one in front is Gen 2.


Did my ARDS at Oulton, great circuit and Elliot could probably give you some pointers as I believe he lived under one of the trees there for a couple of years.....did around 1343242398492342380483209489302490328490 laps of it in his CSL.
 
I was at OultonPark last weekend taking pictures. The GT3 RS on track sounded awesome.

So much awesome, I've just booked the day off work so I can be at the Oulton Park RS Day on the 8th March taking pictures. :D
 
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