Poll: Unreasonable expectations?

[Gilly]

X works as a care worker in a particular needs/mental health care home.

X has worked a 12 hour nightshift last night.
X is due to work another 12 hour nightshift tonight.

Upon finishing the nightshift and packing up to go home X was told about a mandatory training session at 10am that day.

At the same time X was also told that there had been a team meeting arranged at 2pm of the same day.

Please respond to the poll above as to how you would feel about this were you X.

As an addendum, X has young children that are only in childcare whilst X would usually be asleep.

 

[Rotty]

it's also illegal

 

[Teledude]

Depends on pay / shift allowance etc and weather they will cover childcare etc - but my first instinct would be a fu to management.

 

[Maccy]

Isn't there a minimum time of 10 hours before you can go between shifts??

 

[Rotty]

Isn't there a minimum time of 10 hours before you can go between shifts??

11

 

[Cosimo]

Without a lot of prior notice they would be told where to shove it. One can only assume that the asylum is being managed by lunatics.

 

[TrixiBuG]

Hell no!

We run a min of 12 hours between shifts in low season and 11 in high season and only when the agent is happy and agrees to overtime will this be any different

Isn't there a minimum amount of time where they have to advise/ inform you of meetings and training sessions which will take place outside of your normal working hours? I thought there was...

 

[shoes]

Has X been there more than two years? If so then frankly the response would be 'see you at the Tribunal'.

 

[Gilly]

Has X been there more than two years? If so then frankly the response would be 'see you at the Tribunal'.

No, X has been there a short time and doesn't want to rock the boat.

 

[pingwing]

Boat needs rocking really otherwise this will become a regular feature

 

[Trusty]

Still seems unreasonable, even if X has been there a short while.

 

[HAz]

such is life.

 

[Pestilence]

Boat needs rocking really otherwise this will become a regular feature

This.

Working Time Directive states 11 hours between shifts, unless a waiver has been signed. Employees cannot be forced to accept a waiver either, and any unfair or negative treatment of them because of such refusal would be viewed as constructive dismissal.

X needs to stand up for themselves immediately and make it known that such demands are unacceptable and will not be entertained in future. It's the job of management to ensure that their practices and schedules meet up with the rights and requirements of the staff. Not the other way around.

 

[Gilly]

such is life.

Really? You would accept it?

 

[jaybee]

Clearly refuse.

 

[davido_labido]

not a chance would i do that. im pretty sure its illegal.

 

[Nursie]

No way I would attend.

Firstly 11hours between shifts etc, pointing out that it would surely be much more productive for X to sleep so they can perform their duties properly tonight.

Secondly I would point out that I would require more than a few hours notice to arrange childcare for any future meeting they might want me to attend.

 

[elmarko]

it's also illegal

My first thoughts - they need to give a break between shifts of a reasonable level.

I'd also say goes beyond simply being unreasonable to actually being full on retarded.

 

[King Damager]

Nope, I think X needs to tell them where to stick it. In polite words pointing out the legal requirements that have been suggested in the thread.

At most, I may offer to teleconference in.

They can either get rid of my session tonight, so I don't have two back to back with training in the middle. Or, reschedule training.

kd

 

[KaHn]

I've refused HSE training courses offshore after a 12hr night shift before and have no fuss doing it again.

KaHn