More XBox Rumours...Constant Internet Connection Required

[Faded]

Not being able to game at all would be a pain when I have bought the game.

Exactly, I really don't see how anyone can defend this decision should it turn out to be true.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/xbox-live-outage-day-13-still-up-and-down-still-preventing-fu/

13 days without being able to play anything would be fun.

Especially over the Christmas holidays, can you imagine all the angry little kids who can't play their new games

AlphaOmegaSin has posted a pretty angry video about the rumours in a video on Youtube, I won't link to it as he is quite an angry little chappy who likes to use the occasional swear word.

 

[Gav_881]

Nothing combats piracy like making the legitimate version of the software worse than the pirate one

Couldn't agree more, moved to PC from PS3 and found despite the ease of pirating a game there was much less desire to do so as the games were at a price point that wasn't taking the ****.

The thing about this that annoys me though is that the people who are pirating the games will still pirate them and be compleatly unaffected by the issue. I sometimes think large companies forget that young people understand tech better than they do and delight in the challange of defeating these systems.

 

[jrodga2k5]

Couldn't agree more, moved to PC from PS3 and found despite the ease of pirating a game there was much less desire to do so as the games were at a price point that wasn't taking the ****.

Certainly a valid point...I do the majority of my gaming on PC these days...heck I've got a 360 pad for it as well!

The thing is when you look at the recent prices for games on PC you really can't complain like you say...

All release prices which could be had

Crysis 3 @ £27.49
Tomb Raider @ £19.99
Bioshock Infinite (plus 3 free games) @ £23.99

I really wish console games would come down in price a bit...alas I can see next gen games (due to increased Dev costs) probably ending up £10 more expensive.

 

[413x]

Don't play multiplayer
Have an unstable connection, not terrible but an always on inet for single player would ruin it
Also I expect a 1mbit connection will also hurt

If this is true I will not be buying

Simple as that

 

[DaveyD]

I'm going to bet this will all turn out to be a big misunderstanding or overblown.

If it is "always on", then I'm not fussed at all, as my Xbox is always connected to the internet.

I do understand where others are coming from, but I suppose MS are looking at it from the point of view say an iPad is - who actually uses an iPad at home without it connected to the internet?

I reckon we'll see a requirement to register a game or activate a game first time you get it, then letting you be 'offline' once you've done that.

 

[413x]

I'm going to bet this will all turn out to be a big misunderstanding or overblown.

If it is "always on", then I'm not fussed at all, as my Xbox is always connected to the internet.

I do understand where others are coming from, but I suppose MS are looking at it from the point of view say an iPad is - who actually uses an iPad at home without it connected to the internet?

I reckon we'll see a requirement to register a game or activate a game first time you get it, then letting you be 'offline' once you've done that.

Hopefully this is the case

 

[dannyjo22]

I do understand where others are coming from, but I suppose MS are looking at it from the point of view say an iPad is - who actually uses an iPad at home without it connected to the internet?

Not a great example tbh, if the internet is patchy or goes down you can still use your ipad. You can still game, you just cannot surf

I actually have a 3G pad as my internet is patchy for the times it goes down

What next DVD players that have to be connected or you can't watch a film?

 

[wedgie]

What next DVD players that have to be connected or you can't watch a film?

This is why the whole idea is terribly flawed as far as I can see, a console that requires an internet connection to play single player games is no different than a DVD requiring an internet connection to watch a film, there is absolutely zero reason from the consumer point of view to add that extra barrier to entry.

What were the two examples used by the MS exec, a hoover needing electricity and a mobile needing a signal? In both of these examples there is an inherent requirement, what MS would be doing is creating a requirement, there's a huge difference between the two.

There is no inherent need for an internet connection if you just want to relax with a single player game when you get in from work. If this happens, then you need two things before you can even think of playing a game, 1. Microsofts servers need to be running, and 2. your own internet connection needs to be working. I think we can pretty much guarantee that we'd all fall victim to one if not both at some point. I'll certainly be annoyed if the day comes that a console I paid hundreds for is effectively bricked because I don't have an online connection.

And I say all this as someone that has had broadband for years and can't ever see me not having an internet connection, I just find it purely as a matter of principle a terribly anti consumer approach.

 

[DaveyD]

Not a great example tbh, if the internet is patchy or goes down you can still use your ipad. You can still game, you just cannot surf

I actually have a 3G pad as my internet is patchy for the times it goes down

What next DVD players that have to be connected or you can't watch a film?

But as I said in the other bit of my post, I'm going to bet there's still an offline mode. If there isn't, then MS are a bit silly.

By their own admission, of the 76 million Xbox consoles sold, there's 46 million Xbox Live accounts. MS don't want to lose nearly 40% of the potential buyers.

 

[WiseBat]

Not a great example tbh, if the internet is patchy or goes down you can still use your ipad. You can still game, you just cannot surf

I actually have a 3G pad as my internet is patchy for the times it goes down

What next DVD players that have to be connected or you can't watch a film?

Or if you have received a new game a day or 2 early. Sorry you cant play this till 12am on .... when the game is actually released.

 

[K1LLSW1TCH]

But as I said in the other bit of my post, I'm going to bet there's still an offline mode. If there isn't, then MS are a bit silly.

As these are only unconfirmed rumours there may not even be a need to be constantly connected anyway. If we're just taking the rumour at face value though it's "constant Internet connection required" if there was an offline mode then the constant Internet connection wouldn't be a requirement and the rumour would make even less sense than it already does.

 

[MrMarvelous]

Bye bye Adam.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/04/adam-always-online-orth-no-longer-employed-at-microsoft/

 

[Aeleys]

#Dealwithit

EA will hire him

SO funny....talking smack to FANS and then boom

all those memes will haunt him forever too lmao!

 

[Gimpymoo]

He had a point.

As a PC gamer, online requirements are the norm now for one thing or another and have been for a while. Who has a PC/Tablet/Smartphone nowadays and no internet access? Not many.

The consoles had to catch up at some point and it was obvious that popcorn was going to be needed.

I think the majority are complaining for no reason.

Microsoft have access to all the stats.

How many people own an Xbox.
How many have an Xbox live account
How many people have their Xbox to automatically sign in to XBL on startup

I am sure there are a few people without internet connectivity but surely in this day and age, the finger should be pointed at the telecommunications providers?

 

[R0B75]

The point is you can still use smart phones, tablets and PCs offline for single player gaming. They do not require an always on connection. If Microsoft go down this route and force an always on connection they will clearly lose a lot of customers.

 

[dannyjo22]

No he doesn't have a point.

If my internet is down I can still type up word documents on my PC and use any function except internet, if I lose my phone signal my phone is still a useable entertainment device. Same with my ipad.

The finger shouldn't be pointed at the providers, they should be making a device with a view to what's available. SO if they make games that require 100mb internet, then point the finger at the ISP's?

If they were absolutely dominating the console market they might have got away with it. They are not and even with the head start from last time they are not dominating. This time it looks like the PS4 has the edge as first to the market and they pull this kind of PR. Suicide.

As people that game online with me know a few weeks ago when discussing the PS4 thread on here I said I didn't care. Hadn't looked at it and would just buy another Xbox. It's what I knew and liked.

MS have now put me as a buyer of their rivals system for little reason at all. Someone who has had 10+ of their xbox sales and played close to 200 games.

A question, what will happen if MS shut down the servers for a certain title? Will it continue to work 5-10 years down the line like you can Resident Evil whatever on the PS1? Are they going to support these SP games forever? I'm not sure how that will work?

 

[Gimpymoo]

Who has confirmed that games are "streamed"?

You are assuming that with no internet connection, the console ceases to function. I doubt that will be the case although most of this is speculation at this point.

 

[Plainsong]

The latest rumours quash this anyway by saying that a lack of connection will not have an impact on playing local content. I imagine the 'always connected' thing will be similar to the PS4's ability to download updates and patches etc whilst in standby mode.

I don't know how anyone can make a decision not to buy in to something when they've had no official information as to what it is or what it is capable of.

 

[Mr Men]

Was another report posted the other day that having no internet will not stop you playing games, but as MS have not announced a single thing then I will wait and see what the facts are before really caring much.

 

[Walkerie]

He had a point.

As a PC gamer, online requirements are the norm now for one thing or another and have been for a while. Who has a PC/Tablet/Smartphone nowadays and no internet access? Not many.

The consoles had to catch up at some point and it was obvious that popcorn was going to be needed.

I think the majority are complaining for no reason.

Microsoft have access to all the stats.

How many people own an Xbox.
How many have an Xbox live account
How many people have their Xbox to automatically sign in to XBL on startup

I am sure there are a few people without internet connectivity but surely in this day and age, the finger should be pointed at the telecommunications providers?

Regardless of what you say about mobile phones, how often do you lose signal? internet goes down? in a signal less area etc. Change broadband?

All these factors are key.