*** The 2013 Gym Rats Thread ***

Egg white is pretty much only protein. Why not just have a bigger scoop? The benefit of an egg white is that you can actually cook it and eat it, satiating your hunger a bit if you're craving solid food.



Not many fats in an egg white, Doovis.

Was thinking that the whey protein would be different from the egg protein so variety would be good. Im already double scooping at the moment.
 
Was thinking that the whey protein would be different from the egg protein so variety would be good. Im already double scooping at the moment.

Depending on your weight, height and lean mass, more protein may just make your **** smell worse than others...

Are you hitting 100-150g/day at an appropriate calorie count?
 
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Depending on your weight, height and lean mass, more protein may just make your **** smell worse than others...

Are you hitting 100-150g/day at an appropriate calorie count?

I'd be aiming for 180, not as low as 150, and never even contemplating 100g!
 
I disagree, how do you lift an atlas stone, or a heavy block with perfect deadlift form? Its impossible, so training without being able to safely erect from a rounded back position is a surefire way to snappage
I'm not saying that you can flat back a stone.

However, you're theory relies on the fallacy of specificity. You don't get stronger atlas stone muscles by using that position in your other training, you train those muscles as part of the system they are intended to function in. Then you train with atlas stones.

You will never reach your max strength training stimulus with broken positions.
 
I'm not saying that you can flat back a stone.

However, you're theory relies on the fallacy of specificity. You don't get stronger atlas stone muscles by using that position in your other training, you train those muscles as part of the system they are intended to function in. Then you train with atlas stones.

You will never reach your max strength training stimulus with broken positions.

So do you 100% disagree with the rounded back deadlift technique?

The specificity i am referring to is the fact that a static contraction of the muscles that straighten the back is removed from the ability to contract those in unison during a lift to generate leverage using the curve of the spine.

The 'point' of the flat back deadlift technique is to lock the cores position forcing the load onto the larger muscle groups, allowing a lifter to hit supra-maximal lifts with safety, much in the way a squatter on a smith machine can probably exceed his or her own capacity. You are using your core as a fixed base in the same way a machine allows for a fixed plane of motion. Yes it relies on incredible and developed core strength, but it also creates a specific weakness just like a machine.

Because i am not training for maximal strength, never truly working above 95% capacity in the way you powerlifters would, i do not feel i need that perfect flat back, especially as it would hinder my neural patterns for more functional lifting like stones.

But the important neutral ground for us both to agree on, is the understanding of WHAT core integrity does provide, because i do not in any way dismiss its importance. I feel i do understand why i lift in a specific way and i do not struggle to strongly engage my core as a preventative measure when lifting certain loads in certain ways. I use core stability as a tool, not a rule. I need functionally to be able to safely lift without perfect form, i can no more risk inexperience in imperfect lifting positions than a trainer can risk avoiding free weight and training soley on machines.
 
So do you 100% disagree with the rounded back deadlift technique?

The specificity i am referring to is the fact that a static contraction of the muscles that straighten the back is removed from the ability to contract those in unison during a lift to generate leverage using the curve of the spine.

The 'point' of the flat back deadlift technique is to lock the cores position forcing the load onto the larger muscle groups, allowing a lifter to hit supra-maximal lifts with safety, much in the way a squatter on a smith machine can probably exceed his or her own capacity. You are using your core as a fixed base in the same way a machine allows for a fixed plane of motion. Yes it relies on incredible and developed core strength, but it also creates a specific weakness just like a machine.

Because i am not training for maximal strength, never truly working above 95% capacity in the way you powerlifters would, i do not feel i need that perfect flat back, especially as it would hinder my neural patterns for more functional lifting like stones.

But the important neutral ground for us both to agree on, is the understanding of WHAT core integrity does provide, because i do not in any way dismiss its importance. I feel i do understand why i lift in a specific way and i do not struggle to strongly engage my core as a preventative measure when lifting certain loads in certain ways. I use core stability as a tool, not a rule. I need functionally to be able to safely lift without perfect form, i can no more risk inexperience in imperfect lifting positions than a trainer can risk avoiding free weight and training soley on machines.

Ill reply in detail later, but all of that is fundamentally flawed.
 
That's because you're a slightly different case. ;)

Well no, that's still what I'd be aiming for when natty :) When you're a relative noob, you'll need more protein, as there's more muscle your body can make. I remember reading that when you're closer to your genetic maximum for muscle growth, you actually don't need as much as you're only making a small amount of muscle each time you train.

On my next bulk I'll be aiming for well over 200g, taking in to account my newly found specialness.
 
But the more muscle you have, the more protein you need to maintain too. So while new muscle growth gets less the longer you train, you still need to eat to support existing muscle. So I wouldn't want to test that theory by eating less protein

You should be eating far more than 200g on your special sauce anyway, make the most of the higher protein synthesis your body is capable of
 
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