**XBOX ONE** Official Thread

CliffyBiro said:
The difference being that there wasn't much of an alternative, hence the need for a revival in the first place.

Those who didn't like the Xbox One have settled for the PS4. It would have been a horrible business decision NOT to backtrack on this.
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Trouble is I don't think they needed to do a U-turn, if they actually presented the facts at the two presentations. People didnt have a clue about any of the advantages, or why things had to be that way. If they had just laid the facts out in plain English, I think the response would have been very different indeed.
But you can't expect people to piece the facts together from multiple interviews.
 
Macro said:
No one said they did. Like I said, they set out a plan, people fed back they didn't like it so MS took that in, listened to customers and changed the plan to respond to customer feedback. Why try to make that a bad thing and gloat rather than giving them kudos for listen to customers? I don't get it.
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I dont think it was out of the kindness of MS hearts they changed, they thought like most that Sony would do the same. When they didnt they had a bit off egg on face, they did the sensible thing and followed what they and sony had done in the this gen. Now i wonder if any of these so called deals with publishers due to DRM actually exsisted, this is going to cause a few headaches some where lol.
 
CliffyBiro said:
The difference being that there wasn't much of an alternative, hence the need for a revival in the first place.

Those who didn't like the Xbox One have settled for the PS4. It would have been a horrible business decision NOT to backtrack on this.
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Indeed, the console battle is now who can make a console that is most similar to the previous generation. :(
 
No more always online requirement
The console no longer has to check in every 24 hours
All game discs will work on Xbox One as they do on Xbox 360
An Internet connection is only required when initially setting up the console
All downloaded games will function the same when online or offline
No additional restrictions on trading games or loaning discs
Region locks have been dropped
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Dropping region lock is a good call.
 
Pigeon_Killer said:
I'm glad they dumped DRM. They've had years to persuade people digital distribution is the way forward yet you look at their pricing for games via download and they're a ****ing rip off. £25 for Assassins Creed 3 vs £18 for a physical copy and £10 second hand?
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I agree although I don't think that's a good example. They have never been aggressive enough with old game pricing. They should have effectively forced people digital with aggressive pricing instead of £20 for a 5 year old game. They should have under cut all the stores on new games by a fiver and second hand prices on old games.

If they had started that with the 360 people would have been far more interested by now.
 
Macro said:
Really? The set out their plan, people said very clearly they didn't like it and weren't ready for a Steam like digital distribution model yet so MS listened and changed their plan to respond to the feedback from their customers. Seems like the sort of thing a decent company does, why do you feel the need to do the whole "running scared" thing when a company has actually done the right thing by their customers?

Sorry, but Kudos to MS as far as I'm concerned.
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It shows really poor market and customer awareness that they would even try it in the first place though. If they had done any real market research whatsoever then they would have known that it was going to be a massive failure. It's borderline incompetent.

It's a bit like having a friend steal your wallet, then when you notice and shout at him and stop being his friend. He then realises that you're worth more money to him than what was in the wallet so he eventually caves and gives it back. Then you say "Kudos friend, thanks for giving me my wallet back, you're a cool guy after all".

Just no :p

The mistake that MS made was implementing this at launch. They should have waited until they had a large user base installed and invested in the product then pushed in all of the DRM crap. I fully expect them to try to sneak it back in some way, shape, or form in future if they can get away with it.
 
I do think the whole DRM thing has been a bit of a storm in a teacup really, I doubt it would have had a profound negative effect on the majority of us. People don't seem to mind with iTunes/Steam/ebooks/etc.
 
Trifid said:
"Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray." That's a shame but I think this is necessary and the bad press this has made will be soon forgotten by the masses (if they cared in the first place).
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Necessary? I've not put a DVD in my PC for years yet have nearly 100 games at the click of a button, all paid for, available without a net connection. Why is a disc needed anymore apart from the initial install if your internet is slow?
 
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LOL Microsoft 180 confirmed, its still too late for me to go back to microsoft, if anyone thinks they've done this for the customers there deluded, they realized how bad the pre order numbers were and changed what people disliked. The damage will be done for most, this was always going to happen in the end. But its still got less power, a kinnect that has to be always connected and £80 dearer.
 
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