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Taken from http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/technology--devices-and-online-top8/

With today’s technology, you can watch TV on more devices than ever, whenever it suits you best. This means a TV Licence doesn’t just cover you to watch TV at home on a TV set. You can also watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV, through all of these devices:

Computers, including laptops and tablets
Mobile phones
Games consoles
Digital boxes, e.g. Freeview, Sky, Virgin, BT Vision
DVD/VHS/Blu-ray recorders.

As long as the address where you live is licensed, you’re also covered to watch TV outside your home using any device powered solely by its own internal batteries. This includes your mobile phone, laptop and tablet.

You must be covered by a valid TV Licence if you watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV. It makes no difference what equipment you use - whether it’s a laptop, PC, mobile phone, digital box, DVD/video recorder or a TV set - you still need a licence.

The exception being:
Exception: If you only watch catch-up services online, then you don’t need a licence. For example, you don’t need one to use BBC iPlayer, or ITV player, to catch up on programmes after they have been shown on TV.
 
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just because you are capable or receiving a live broad cast does not mean you are breaking any laws.
It's only if you watch live TV.

You could argue anyone with a smart phone is capable of watching live tv and there for requires a tv license when they do not.


Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law something which these letters fail to point out and just assume everyone is guilty and treats them like criminals.

They're not accusing you of anything. They're simply saying "we know you don't have a TV licence and would like to confirm why this is".

Given that you have failed to reply or get in touch with them, obviously they now think that you are not replying as you don't have a licence, and therefore have a right to take you to court to understand the situation. If the court finds that you ought to have done something to remedy the situation (ie getting back in touch) they will probably order you to pay costs.
 
Can anyone explain to me how the BBC through TVLicensing can effectively change the Law in the UK and get away with it?

Our Laws in the UK say you are 'Innocent until proven guilty'.

The BBC says you are 'Guilty until proven innocent'.

I think it is an absolute disgrace that they can get away with the methods they use.

How many of you don't go fishing? Have you ever had a letter asking why you don't have a fishing Licence? How would you feel if you were then constantly harassed and called a criminal for not owning a fishing Licence even though you don't fish? Letters accusing you of being a criminal, threatening Court action, sending people around to your address every 6 Months to check and make threats to search your property all for the sake of this Licence you don't need because you don't go fishing.
 
I dont know why you just havnt said you dont watch live feeds, it would stop them hassling you.

I know its a pain paying it and I dont like it either BUT if you look how much TV some people watch including my self its not bad value.
 
I do not believe the amount of people that post on OCUK forums that claim to not have a live TV feed into their house. I simply do not believe it. I don't think I have ever in my life been to someones house and they not had the ability to turn on a television to a live feed. I'm trying to think of one and I can't.
I've got a Virgin box in my cupboard - I could get it out of its box and plug it in to my TV if someone came round and demanded live television :)
 
and therefore have a right to take you to court to understand the situation. If the court finds that you ought to have done something to remedy the situation (ie getting back in touch) they will probably order you to pay costs.

No, they don't. No, they won't.
 
If you're not paying a TV licence fee, they have a right to ask why. If you don't respond to their questions, they'll continue to do so. I don't really understand the issue.

No they don't, and no they don't, and if they do it becomes harassment. lol!

You don't get hounded to state you don't need a fishing licence, or a licence to keep dangerous animals... to simply assume every one watches live TV in this day and age is laughable.
 
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No they don't, and no they don't, and if they do it becomes harassment. lol!

So what are you going to do?

Take them to court?
If you have got nothing to hide, by all means, but if that ends up incriminating you because you do watch tv, then you just shot yourself in the foot.
 
Channel 5 have Under The Dome, doesn't start til the Autumn here though.

Very rarely do i watch live TV these days as there is less and less i even bother turning the Virgin box on for, Luther is the only current UK show that i watch atm. It's getting to the point i'm paying the License for a handful of hours a year and can see me stopping once my cab is enabled for FTTC and i dump Virgin.

Edit - although, the Olympics last year was worth it. I must admit the i watched an awful lot of BBC last summer because of it.
 
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"Treated like a criminal"! Lol

Afew letters through the door that you don't have to reply to and know there is minimal chance of repercussions = being treated like a criminal.

Next your be saying your name can't be used to identify you and it's just a name given to you at birth blah blah
 
So what are you going to do?

Take them to court?
If you have got nothing to hide, by all means, but if that ends up incriminating you because you do watch tv, then you just shot yourself in the foot.

I honestly don't use my TV or any device in a manner that requires a licence, so it is impossible to incriminate myself, I really don't understand why people can't accept that :rolleyes:

To be fair, no I won't take them to court, because they are not currently causing me any bother and I've got better things to do with my life..
 
I honestly don't use my TV or any device in a manner that requires a licence, so it is impossible to incriminate myself, I really don't understand why people can't accept that :rolleyes:

To be fair, no I won't take them to court, because they are not currently causing me any bother and I've got better things to do with my life..

So its not causing you enough harassment to do anything about it, so there you go.
 
Given that you have failed to reply or get in touch with them, obviously they now think that you are not replying as you don't have a licence, and therefore have a right to take you to court to understand the situation. If the court finds that you ought to have done something to remedy the situation (ie getting back in touch) they will probably order you to pay costs.

Oh lord... for really? :o
 
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