lol tvlicensing


and how many of those comments are about me watching it live....
compared to how much I used to post in there I barely post in there at all and you know it.
when was the last Time i bothered arguing with you in an f1 thread like the old times? :p must have been sometime last year when I watched every race live.

If you want to see how active I really am then compare all my bike related posts to the f1 ones...
I doubt I even post in the motorsport forum more than 5 times a week anymore where as I used to post probably over 10 times a day.

there's nothing on TV any more I feel forced to watch live so why bother buying a tv license when I can do without?
F1 was probably the only thing I ever watched live anyway.

I haven't even posted about f1 in over 7 days because I do not care. I do not need to see it live I would rather just watch the highlights unless I'm somewhere it's on anyway
and if you didn't notice the last live comment was about a blowout miles before the race finished... because I was not watching it at home and I did not see much past that point.

BTW If I ever did end up in court I could probably just link to this thread as my evidence seeing as you guys helped me collect evidence I don't watch live :D
 
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Well, Schumacher did retire, so 99% of the reason you watched at all just vanished :p

exactly there's nothing I feel the need to watch live so I don't bother.
Theres very little english TV I watch anyway I mainly just watch movies ondemand @ skygo when I'm bored
 
God I hate those common law morons.

In fact, watching those videos winds me up no end. Somehow I knew they'd get posted in this thread but I couldn't stop myself :p

OP, move to a tidy area, get your own sky subscription and pay your tv license like a good little boy?
 
God I hate those common law morons.

In fact, watching those videos winds me up no end. Somehow I knew they'd get posted in this thread but I couldn't stop myself :p

OP, move to a tidy area, get your own sky subscription and pay your tv license like a good little boy?

I clicked close the moment I heard the phrase common law, got better things to do with my life than waste time listening to that garbage.
 
No, you need a license if you watch or otherwise receive a tv signal as it is being broadcast.

There is no such 'original source' clause. If you think there, please link to it, as it's something no-one else seems to have ever read.

If you are recording things, you are receiving the live signal and thus fall under the license requirements.

If I recorded something, put it on a DVD and gave it to you at work, you wouldn't need a license but I would, regardless of the fact the 'original source' was a live signal.

I didn't say there was a clause, but it's common sense. They say you require a license to watch TV as it's broadcast, or to receive and record broadcast programming.

You do not need a license to watch shows via a catchup service, despite the content being the same thing.

Ergo, you need a license if your source of programming you acquire yourself is from a live broadcast.

As for the DVD recording scenario, sure, but I'd bet the reason behind that is more to do with the fact that there's literally nothing they can do about it, but I fully expect them to try and say in as vague a manner as possible that you're not allowed to without saying "you're not allowed".

You know, like when DVD movies, games, music CDs or Blurays have "Do not lend/No unauthorised lending" printed on them? They will imply it's against the licensing terms, but won't explicitly say it because it can't be enforced.

It's the same as if someone was recording TV to DVD themselves to watch later, and TV Licensing were suspicious of them.

How could they prove said person recorded it themselves, or their neighbor recorded it and gave them the DVD?


I wasn't talking about iPlayer no, however it can and does apply to iPlayer if you're using iPlayer to view live broadcasts.

For the on demand aspect of iPlayer, no it doesn't.
 
I didn't say there was a clause, but it's common sense. They say you require a license to watch TV as it's broadcast, or to receive and record broadcast programming.

You do not need a license to watch shows via a catchup service, despite the content being the same thing.

Ergo, you need a license if your source of programming you acquire yourself is from a live broadcast.

Only if you, directly, are receiving that broadcast (be it watching or recording it) as it is being broadcast live on television.

It doesn't matter if a live broadcast was the original source of something you acquire later by other means, such as a torrent download or a borrowed DVD or whatever.

You need a license to receive the broadcast (via whatever means), as it is being broadcast, nothing more, nothing less.
 
Only if you, directly, are receiving that broadcast (be it watching or recording it) as it is being broadcast live on television.

It doesn't matter if a live broadcast was the original source of something you acquire later by other means, such as a torrent download or a borrowed DVD or whatever.

You need a license to receive the broadcast (via whatever means), as it is being broadcast, nothing more, nothing less.

Which is what I was saying anyway...

You've taken what I was saying out of the context in which I originally said it.
 
Well you initially responded to a point about a torrent download saying it's original source was a live broadcast and so it would be different to a catchup service like iPlayer, which isn't right. In TV Licensing terms it's no different at all, as you've not received a live broadcast in either case.
 
Well you initially responded to a point about a torrent download saying it's original source was a live broadcast and so it would be different to a catchup service like iPlayer, which isn't right. In TV Licensing terms it's no different at all, as you've not received a live broadcast in either case.

Out of context, because I don't at all think TV licensing try to levy TV licenses for people who watch torrents of TV shows, or that you require a license to watch torrents of TV shows.
 
Out of context, because I don't at all think TV licensing try to levy TV licenses for people who watch torrents of TV shows, or that you require a license to watch torrents of TV shows.
I don't understand what you are getting at you seem to have gone 180 on us now
 
£6278 saved between now@33 and my 75th birthday for not buying a license and that's going on the current rate. Money well saved imo.

Do you not pay because you don't require one, or because you're a renegade?
 
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