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My mum called me tonight and said she'd read in the local paper that some graves had been smashed at our local church, which is where my dad was laid to rest some 30 years ago. SHe asked if I could pop down to check his was ok.

This was the sight that greeted me when I got there...

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Some sick idiots had smashed 3 gravestones off the wall and taken the urns inside, containing the ashes. No sign of my Dads urn.

I may be 40 now, and my Dad passed some 30 years ago, but I don't mind admitting I cried my bloody eyes out. I'm shocked that anybody could be so mindless as to desecrate graves in this way. What the hell did they hope to achieve ? Good job they weren't still there or I would have mnade a mess of them.

Anyway, we had no idea who to contact as the church is no longer used and up for sale but Mum eventually got hold of an emergency vicar (I kid you not) who said he would look into it.

Turns out that 2 of the urns had been recovered, damaged but with the ashes inside intact, however one was missing and the ashes had been spilt all over the floor. By some small mercy my Dad's urn is one of the intact ones.

So we're thinking that as the church is due to be demolished/sold on that they would let us have the ashes back so we can scatter them at my Dad's Mum and Dad's grave. Oh no, nothing that simple.

The vicar says it's a lengthy and expensive process as it would be classed as an exhumation. WTF! They have clearly already been exhumed. I don't want to have to fill in a load of forms and fork out an as yet unknown amount of money just for some religious type to come down and do some bizarre ritual that then allows us to have our Dad's ashes back.

I never was a big fan of the church, nor was Dad for that matter, but this has my blood boiling. It's bad enough that this has happened at all without making it even more difficult for us all.

Anybody got any idea on the best approach to take here, because at the moment I feel like calling them tomorrow and giving them some verbals. :mad:
 
Wow, lost for words. Seriously sorry to hear this. There are some utter scumbags in the world, to do something like this they deserve everything which is coming to them.

Words defy me.
 
Does the church own the urns and by extension the ashes? It sounds like you need specialist advice as I'd be surprised if anyone on here has fact-based advice.

Your dad died at 35? Geez :(
 
I'd be mad too. Absolute *******. Even if they were caught they probably wouldn't get punishment anywhere near fitting :(
 
[FnG]magnolia;24775752 said:
Does the church own the urns and by extension the ashes? It sounds like you need specialist advice as I'd be surprised if anyone on here has fact-based advice.

Your dad died at 35? Geez :(

Aye, I was only 10 at the time. I honestly didn't go down to his grave that much anymore as it still makes me blub if I think about it too much.

I'm probably just as shocked that we can't just have the ashes back in this situation. They are going to have to 'exhume' them at some point anyway when the church is demolished :confused:
 
That really sucks that you were a victim of human garbage! :mad: I hope you've been to the police, like you say the vicar states it's an exhumation.

I suppose that the ashes were in the church's trust so there would be a certain amount of bureaucracy. If you find the culprits you should be able to reclaim the damages.
 
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Lost for words....... genuinely.

Happy that your dads Urn and ashes has been recovered. Unbelievable about the church though and the "exhumation"
 
The Police have been informed but I won't hold my breath there. Even if they do catch whoever did it they'll no doubt just get a slap on the wrist.

It happened last Friday and it if hadn't been for my Mum seeing it in the paper we would still be none the wiser as the church had no records of his next of kin. Funny that, as Mum only spoke to them about 18 months ago when she found out the church was up for sale, to see what would be happening with the graves.
 
thats not nice, but as to why i geuse that a lot of urns where made of brass or even silver.

That thought has crossed my mind. I can see some drunken/high idiots smashing up graves for kicks, but taking the urns and spilling the ashes from one of them seems a bit far even for mindless idiots.
 
Im sorry to hear this, nearly driving me to tears just reading about it..

This should never happen and thank you for being brave enough to share it with us..
 
Wow, lost for words. Seriously sorry to hear this. There are some utter scumbags in the world, to do something like this they deserve everything which is coming to them.

Words defy me.

Can't think of anything more to say that isn't covered in the post above.
 
So sorry to hear this.

It's incidents like this which makes me believe there is no hope for this country whilst people who think this is acceptable to carry out are walking our streets. I hope you get a resolution with this and the culprits are apprehended.
 
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