Soldato
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What a holes! Who thinks, I know what, I'll go robbing some urns?! Idiots. Mind you, the church aren't that much better. I'd be feeling the same as you right now.
Inhuman scum
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Words fail me at times what idiots there are in this world to do things like this. I am sorry you have had to deal with this.
bad enough loosing a loved one, let alone having to worry about vandalism where they are left to rest in peace.
I hope you get it sorted.
bad enough loosing a loved one, let alone having to worry about vandalism where they are left to rest in peace.
I hope you get it sorted.
Words fail me. I can't even imagine how I'd feel if some sick ******* stole my dad's ashes.
I hope it's not too much of a ball ache to get them back. Maybe have a chat with your mum and scatter them somewhere he would've liked so you never have to worry about it happening again (we did this with my dad, but buried a little bit of him in the local church).
I hope it's not too much of a ball ache to get them back. Maybe have a chat with your mum and scatter them somewhere he would've liked so you never have to worry about it happening again (we did this with my dad, but buried a little bit of him in the local church).
Seen something like this in our local paper a few times at a few different graveyards, mostly it's the brass plaques that are removed (unsure which scrapyard would take these as they are obviously stolen) but the worst was the children's graveyard where the wifes nephew is buried, they came in kicked over/spray painted loads of headstones and stole the toys/teddies etc. that were left on the graves!
I don't believe there are words in the English language to describe how bad these people are.
I don't believe there are words in the English language to describe how bad these people are.
This is why we can't have nice things !
But seriously that is horrible. I cannot even begin to comprehend what they people who done it could have been thinking. Why would you do it ?!
Hope all goes well with scattering the ashes.
But seriously that is horrible. I cannot even begin to comprehend what they people who done it could have been thinking. Why would you do it ?!
Hope all goes well with scattering the ashes.
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There are some very sick desperate people out there
Am sorry to hear this.
Can't believe the red tape either
BB x
Am sorry to hear this.
Can't believe the red tape either
BB x
There are no words strong enough for this level of scum. It just begs disbelief. Really sorry this happened to you OP, but really glad the urn was recovered intact.
Hope you can cut through all that religious red tape BS and resolve this matter quickly.
Hope you can cut through all that religious red tape BS and resolve this matter quickly.
How horrendous. There truly are some hateful, mindless scum in this world.
Unfortunately, the law requires that any interment of human remains (in whatever form) on consecrated ground should be final. Exhumation is possible but is not terribly straight forward and whilst your father's ashes have been de facto exhumed, they are not legally exhumed. My father is a retired senior clergyman and, assuming he recalls correctly, if you simply plan to re-bury in consecrated ground, then only a Bishop's Faculty would be required. Re-burial anywhere else would require both a Faculty and a Home Office License. It would be worth getting in touch with the office of your local bishop to explain the situation to see what can be done. Emphasise that you wish to re-bury (well, scatter) on consecrated ground and that might make things a little simpler.
If you let me know whereabouts the church is I might be able to find a diocese contact (assuming the church is CofE).
Unfortunately, the law requires that any interment of human remains (in whatever form) on consecrated ground should be final. Exhumation is possible but is not terribly straight forward and whilst your father's ashes have been de facto exhumed, they are not legally exhumed. My father is a retired senior clergyman and, assuming he recalls correctly, if you simply plan to re-bury in consecrated ground, then only a Bishop's Faculty would be required. Re-burial anywhere else would require both a Faculty and a Home Office License. It would be worth getting in touch with the office of your local bishop to explain the situation to see what can be done. Emphasise that you wish to re-bury (well, scatter) on consecrated ground and that might make things a little simpler.
If you let me know whereabouts the church is I might be able to find a diocese contact (assuming the church is CofE).
deep breaths matey, deep breaths
your dads ashes are safe, and are in the possession of the church,
if the church is due to be demolished, let them do it,
they will contact you to re-locate your fathers ashes,
this will be faster than you trying to have them exhumed,
thoughts with your family, such a sad story, reflective of the scum that surround us.
your dads ashes are safe, and are in the possession of the church,
if the church is due to be demolished, let them do it,
they will contact you to re-locate your fathers ashes,
this will be faster than you trying to have them exhumed,
thoughts with your family, such a sad story, reflective of the scum that surround us.
That's really awful to hear, these people are scumbags.
I don't have any advice to offer that hasn't already been said (contacting the church, police and maybe some sort of lawyer).
I hope it doesn't end up costing you too much and that you can get it sorted with the minimum of fuss.
I don't have any advice to offer that hasn't already been said (contacting the church, police and maybe some sort of lawyer).
I hope it doesn't end up costing you too much and that you can get it sorted with the minimum of fuss.
Mate I am glad your ashes have been recovered.
I would get permission from all your family before just taking the ashes, I wouldn't even ask for permission from the church if all your family have came to the same conclusion has you.
Once scattered what are they going to do? **** them.
I would get permission from all your family before just taking the ashes, I wouldn't even ask for permission from the church if all your family have came to the same conclusion has you.
Once scattered what are they going to do? **** them.
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This is happening more and more these days. Whether it's teenagers or people just doing it for "fun" it's disgraceful and i really do not understand what anybody gets out of desecrating the graves of other peoples loved ones. They are nothing but scum. It's a major problem in the big graveyard in Elgin and on the increase. Something happens there every week and is reported in the local paper. Gravestones toppled over a smashed, graffitti, destroying flower pots, ripping up flowers that have been planted, stealing toys and gifts from childrens graves, the list goes on. It's sick and disgusting and something needs doing about it.