CS:GO Discussion

uncle_rufus · 16 Aug 2013 at 10:14

caz32 said:
There is no problem really, CSS allowed you to skin your weapons just this time round everyone can see them.

Aren't you concerned that this could just be the start of something worse though? In TF2 it started out as some basic side-grade weapons which added a few extra play styles, but then came the hats, the unusuals, the strange weapons, misc items then absolutely tons of extra weapons and cosmetics (not all particularly great or balanced), strange parts, and so on....

I realise we're only talking about cosmetic things here, but I'm just saying let's hope this doesn't signal the start of something which might not be great or needed by this particular game. Will it have the same feel for you when you're shooting a team of CTs wearing giant inflatable rubber-duck novelty hats dressed in tuxedos and mankini's with over-the-top particle effects spinning around them constantly? (sounds amusing but we have TF2 and GarrysMod for that kinda stuff surely)

caz32 · 16 Aug 2013 at 12:20

No, It will just be kept to weapons only because Valve know that they can't afford to destroy the cs community also there is always source and 1.6 to go back to if it was to go out of hand

4737Joker · 16 Aug 2013 at 12:32

didn't see the point of removing the silencer from the game in the first place, and now to bring it back with a stupid ammo change in just pointless.

uncle_rufus · 16 Aug 2013 at 13:12

caz32 said:
No, It will just be kept to weapons only because Valve know that they can't afford to destroy the cs community also there is always source and 1.6 to go back to if it was to go out of hand

Like I said time will tell... but I wouldn't put it past Valve to dive on an opportunity to milk this for all it's worth - do you really think they'd go to the effort of putting the item system into the game with keys and crates and everything just to offer a few re-skins?

Also btw although I'm pointing this out I don't really have a huge problem with the changes - I'll still play CS:GO either way and I do trust Valve not to go crazy - I just think it has the potential to eventually get in the way of the core experience of the game. (and I have no interest in CSS or 1.6, call it sacrilege if you will but I was more of a Unreal Tournament man back when it was around so CS:GO is the onlyCS to me)

NirK · 16 Aug 2013 at 13:39

Actually the M4 S is not bad and the USP S... But what I find monumentally stupid is that you can only select it at the start of the game and during the match it is not possible to change, for example you choose the M4S at the start and for the whole match you can only use the M4S and not the M4A4... Why can't you choose between them during the match as they have different prices and clip size.

PixelChef · 16 Aug 2013 at 13:53

NirK said:
Actually the M4 S is not bad and the USP S... But what I find monumentally stupid is that you can only select it at the start of the game and during the match it is not possible to change, for example you choose the M4S at the start and for the whole match you can only use the M4S and not the M4A4... Why can't you choose between them during the match as they have different prices and clip size.

I think you can swap them in your inventory in a match, but only whilst dead.

caz32 · 16 Aug 2013 at 14:57

uncle_rufus said:
Like I said time will tell... but I wouldn't put it past Valve to dive on an opportunity to milk this for all it's worth - do you really think they'd go to the effort of putting the item system into the game with keys and crates and everything just to offer a few re-skins?

Also btw although I'm pointing this out I don't really have a huge problem with the changes - I'll still play CS:GO either way and I do trust Valve not to go crazy - I just think it has the potential to eventually get in the way of the core experience of the game. (and I have no interest in CSS or 1.6, call it sacrilege if you will but I was more of a Unreal Tournament man back when it was around so CS:GO is the onlyCS to me)

Yea, it's to support the competitive scene because the point in GO was to make a push for esports and the funds from people paying to unlock crates etc get put into a prize pool so this makes sense on the best way to do it.

If it had gone free to play then thats it, the community would just die because a lot more griefers, trolls and hackers would just ruin the game, it happened in TF2 when that went f2p but apparently its settled down now.

Also the way GO has been built with the matchmaking etc was not in TF2 (iirc) so they would probably have to do major changes for GO to work in a free to play model.

I know for sure we won't see hats in CS GO, maybe a little character customization down the line (going by being able to pick diff chars in older counterstrikes, but even then it might not happen

) and the whole hat and weapon thing makes sense for TF2 because of its theme, it was never serious in the first place.

The silenced M4 is overpowered even with the low ammo count, everyone is using it (including T's grabbing it off the floor at any given chance) it is a bit weak at long range though compared to ak47 as I done something like 96 in 6 yesterday with it. It's an absolute headshot machine at mid to close range

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NirK · 16 Aug 2013 at 15:00

oL said:
I think you can swap them in your inventory in a match, but only whilst dead.

Ill check but I am pretty sure that in competitive mode you cannot change it, you select the loadout at the start of the match and that is it for the whole match... only modes I play is deathmatch and competitive.

NirK · 16 Aug 2013 at 15:09

caz32 said:
The silenced M4 is overpowered even with the low ammo count, everyone is using it (including T's grabbing it off the floor at any given chance) it is a bit weak at long range though compared to ak47 as I done something like 96 in 6 yesterday with it. It's an absolute headshot machine at mid to close range .

I don't think it is that overpowered, I think it is more the novelty of it that people are using it all the time because its new.... In competitive matches it would be overpowered with 30 bullets but the 20 clip really nerfs it because you can only take out 2-3 max before need to reload.

caz32 · 16 Aug 2013 at 15:12

NirK said:
I don't think it is that overpowered, I think it is more the novelty of it that people are using it all the time because its new.... In competitive matches it would be overpowered with 30 bullets but the 20 clip really nerfs it because you can only take out 2-3 max before need to reload.

I haven't played a compet match with it yet, but yea it probably is more balanced in 5v5

NeilMcL86 · 15 Oct 2013 at 21:15

caz32 said:
I haven't played a compet match with it yet, but yea it probably is more balanced in 5v5

Agreed

Mark A · 15 Oct 2013 at 21:59

I can't believe how people can spend over £200 on a weapon skin! :eek:

. Valve certainly know how to make money.

NeilMcL86 · 16 Oct 2013 at 02:48

Yeah I mix with a few lads who have pumped a few ££££ into skins!
I have not bought any but have won? Or however you gain them nothing special

uncle_rufus · 16 Oct 2013 at 08:04

It's not all bad... when they first introduced the crates I had some wallet change left over so I bought a couple of keys on the marketplace... Uncrated a dragon tattoo glock which sold for about £8!!!

Mark A · 16 Oct 2013 at 08:39

uncle_rufus said:
It's not all bad... when they first introduced the crates I had some wallet change left over so I bought a couple of keys on the marketplace... Uncrated a dragon tattoo glock which sold for about £8!!!

Nice! I had a few skins drop that were worth about 70p, but that was when it started, the same ones are worth about 3p now

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uncle_rufus · 16 Oct 2013 at 09:23

Mark A said:
Nice! I had a few skins drop that were worth about 70p, but that was when it started, the same ones are worth about 3p now .

Yeah I think there was only a short time-frame when it was all very new that you could get decent prices for things (much like in the TF2 economy when new items or events are added)... If it's any consolation I spent some of the £8 on a few more keys (since it was free profit after all) and got a couple of crap skins like the Famas doomkitty twice (worth maybe 5p each) and some other rubbish - oh well

Epoch · 16 Oct 2013 at 09:59

caz32 said:
I haven't played a compet match with it yet, but yea it probably is more balanced in 5v5

I've found 5v5 balances maps a lot nicer as well, especially with these operation bravo maps.

NeilMcL86 · 16 Oct 2013 at 12:17

Mark A said:
Nice! I had a few skins drop that were worth about 70p, but that was when it started, the same ones are worth about 3p now .

Yeah a lot of people say they drop in value very quick!

NeilMcL86 · 16 Oct 2013 at 19:30

I played a lot of 1.6 if i remember right CB did have a "hand full" of decent teams at one point but no one major.

ak22 · 16 Oct 2013 at 20:29

uninstalled CS:GO and playing Source much more fun.