Poll: Syrian Chemical Weapon Attack

[Biohazard]

He only speaks sense because sense suits him, it also happens to be the general feeling of the Western populace as well, so lucky him.

Doesn't stop the fact that he and all the other Council members at the head of the UN supply all these weapons in the first place.

So it isn't him being sensible, it's just that by miracle his words happen to fall in line with what's happening and how most people feel?

It does, but then again we sell the arms and intiate wars. A slight difference can be noted there.

Those 100000 people were all likely killed by weapons we provided, so the number is ignored, just in case people get the unfortunate idea of realising the wonderful world we live in.

I certainly don't agree with this either.

 

[StriderX]

So it isn't him being sensible, it's just that by miracle his words happen to fall in line with what's happening and how most people feel?

It does, but then again we sell the arms and intiate wars. A slight difference can be noted there.



I certainly don't agree with this either.

Putin is first and foremost an ex-KGB agent, so the motives are dark from the beginning.

He is secondly a crooked politician (more so than most), however considering he does have Russia to deal with, it may be useful to a degree having to deal with oligarchs and the Russian Mob, is likely a difficult task.

Thirdly this is the US we are talking about and ultimately, Russia must do the opposite.

Even with all that, yes it is nice to hear it coming from a man such as him, but i would not take it as a credible position.

 

[Biohazard]

I think it's quite credible and sensible, and most of what he states is at least factually correct.

 

[Theophany]

Events of the past week in particular, within the context of the last two years.

That was the worst humiliating backbench revolt that we've seen so far. It keeps getting worse and worse for him.

Accusing Labour of helping a dictator while at the same time as saying 'we listened to public opinion' would also liken the mass of politicians and people opposed as also collaborators in some sense.....?

I get where you're coming from. It was all a bit of a mess, whether timings were planned or just blundered it's tough to tell. What seems to leave a foul taste is that the vote appears to have been controlled by party whips rather than a free ballot.

I think saying Cameron is finished is a bit melodramatic given that his opposite number is a plasticine cartoon character (and appears to display the requisite leadership characteristics of one), but it will take a fair amount of spin doctoring to play this one right.

 

[Malevolence]

So Assad is busy killing 100,000 jihadists, remind me again why we are apparently supporting the wrong side? The guy is a freaking hero, we should be helping him./London

So you'd rather us side with Hezzbollah than al-Qaeda? I say we just bomb both sides and be done with it.

 

[n111ck]

Where is evidence Syrian Government is involved, there is none, nothing credible floating about.

If the rebels didn't do it (no evidence) and Assad didn't do it (no evidence) then WHO did??

 

[Tefal]

So you'd rather us side with Hezzbollah than al-Qaeda? I say we just bomb both sides and be done with it.

Hezzbollah seem content to keep their jihad to the middle east unlike al-Qaeda so sure.

 

[magick]

The Uk published a three page document saying Assad did it, what more do you want?

Blair had documents published saying Saddam had WMDs that could hit the UK in 45 min. It turned out not to be true as many people had stated on forums across the net before the first shot in the Iraq war was even fired.

 

[magick]

If the rebels didn't do it (no evidence) and Assad didn't do it (no evidence) then WHO did??

Nothing to be confused about as the rebels did it. By logical reasoning we can assume Assad isn't dumb enough to fire chemical weapons on civilians less than a mile where UN weapons inspectors are investigating the claims of such weapons being used.

 

[dunker]

and breathe, atleast he's going to congress.

 

[deuse]

Obama you're an idiot.

 

[n111ck]

Nothing to be confused about as the rebels did it. By logical reasoning we can assume Assad isn't dumb enough to fire chemical weapons on civilians less than a mile where UN weapons inspectors are investigating the claims of such weapons being used.

So 'evidence' is only important when it comes to Assad - for anyone else 'assumption' is acceptable? Simply ridiculous and horribly naive.

 

[LOAM]

and breathe, atleast he's going to congress.

Just as DC knew, Obama knows congress wont permit it.

 

[magick]

So 'evidence' is only important when it comes to Assad - for anyone else 'assumption' is acceptable? Simply ridiculous and horribly naive.

Do you really think someone who was smart enough to remain leader of middle eastern country for decades would be naive enough to give the US a reason to carpet bomb him?

This was a false flag that's badly backfired and I bet over the coming days the UN will declare that Assad didn't fire the weapons.

 

[Raymond Lin]

Do you really think someone who managed to remain leader of middle eastern country for decades would be naive enough to give the US a reason to carpet bomb him?

This was a false flag that's badly backfired and I bet over the coming days the UN will declare that Assad didn't fire the weapons.

Quoted for reference for next week.

 

[n111ck]

Do you really think someone who managed to remain leader of middle eastern country for decades would be naive enough to give the US a reason to carpet bomb him?
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Yes, because that is exactly what happened with Saddam Hussein who went to great lengths to keep up the pretence of WMDs even though it meant a war he could never win.

Assad is guilty and Western apathy is shameful and will def come back to haunt us.

 

[LOAM]

I honestly don't think the US want to go ahead without the UK involved, not because I think we are ace (I do btw) but because together its easier to snub / Ignore any UN decision.

 

[magick]

Yes, because that is exactly what happened with Saddam Hussein who went to great lengths to keep up the pretence of WMDs even though it meant a war he could never win.

Assad is guilty and Western apathy is shameful and will def come back to haunt us.

Please show me the evidence Assad is guilty and by evidence I mean evidence that would stand up in a court of law, after all we are talking about starting a war here.

And don't insult my intelligence by quoting heresay and conjecture from likes of Obama, Kerry, Cameroon or Hague.

 

[n111ck]

Please show me the evidence Assad is guilty and by evidence I mean evidence that would stand up in a court of law, after all we are talking about starting a war here.

And don't insult my intelligence by quoting heresay and conjecture from likes of Obama, Kerry, Cameroon or Hague.

Please show me evidence that the rebels are guilty etc etc.

 

[scorza]

Obama you're an idiot.

No he isn't - he pretty much has to take action after he very publicly made the use of CW a red line, never imagining for a second that the Syrian regime would be daft enough to use CW. Well they were and now he risks looking weak and emasculated on the international stage - he'll do a few token airstrikes against pointless targets like Presidential Palaces, the equivalent of a public school spanking to Assad and then leave the Syrians to keep on killing each other.