Poll: Syrian Chemical Weapon Attack

[bitslice]

So you'd rather us side with Hezzbollah than al-Qaeda? I say we just bomb both sides and be done with it.

Syrian Government = Alawite
Syrian people = Sunni Arabs

Hezbollah = Shi'a nutjobs
al-Qaeda = Sunnihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunni nutjobs


Muslim fighting muslim, this is the best thing to happen in the happy land of Sky Pixies since time began.
We should arm one side until they look like winning, then arm the other side, then when the stupid nutjobs make peace we can look forward to 200 years of sectarian infighting as not one of them knows when to stop beheading the other for sleeping with their goat.

Meanwhile, we can get on with discovering dark matter and all the other important stuff and leave the sky pixie peasants to throw rocks at each other.

 

[scorza]

You should work for the Obama Administration.


Seriously however, just because someone has something, does not automatically give credence to bomb the place, possibly killing more civilians than the Chemical attack did in the first place.

If Only ~10% of Americans want a war, i think it would probably be prudent to ask why?

Also to think that Britain's little relationship is going to change ****, is very apt for a nation that still think's that it means something. (going by the funny article the BBC wrote up)

Thanks Question for you: two people are locked in a room, one person has a gun, the other person gets shot. Who do you think did it?

 

[LOAM]

There is no 100% sure evidence for that magick, but by the same sense you claim its false flag of which there is no evidence for that either. Its a war situation that's been fought between several unsavoury factions that the west likely want nothing to do with. Bottom line is no one knows for sure, likely never will either but the US and indeed the UK have over the years set ourselves up as global police so at some point we either do something or a politician has to lose face and I personally dont think any of the ****** are brave enough to lose face.

 

[magick]

Please show me evidence that the rebels are guilty etc etc.

I said provide evidence to prove Assad is guilty that would stand up in a court of law. In court of law the accused is innocent until proven guilty but you seem to think that doesn't apply when it comes to starting international conflicts and firing missiles at people people the other side of the planet.

 

[Raymond Lin]

Please show me the evidence Assad is guilty and by evidence I mean evidence that would stand up in a court of law, after all we are talking about starting a war here.

And don't insult my intelligence by quoting heresay and conjecture from likes of Obama, Kerry, Cameroon or Hague.

Those pictures and videos of dead children with no wounds are work of Hollywood right?

 

[LOAM]

Those pictures and videos of dead children with no wounds are work of Hollywood right?

Of course not but they dont prove who did it, only the outcome.

 

[magick]

There is no 100% sure evidence for that magick, but by the same sense you claim its false flag of which there is no evidence for that either.

Not just me in forums all over the net people are saying it's a blatent false flag.

I think the agenda was we'd already be droping bombs by now and in the ongoing and greater carnage the original cause (the chemical weapon attack) and who really did it would seem trivial. However things backfired badly for Cameroon and Obama and it's likely they'll be exposed for trying to take us into another based on lies.

 

[n111ck]

I said provide evidence to prove Assad is guilty that would stand up in a court of law. In court of law the accused is innocent until proven guilty but you seem to think that doesn't apply when it comes to starting international conflicts and firing missiles at people people the other side of the planet.

I said provide evidence to prove the rebels are guilty that would stand up blah blah blah.

If Assad is innocent then the rebels must be guilty so where is the evidence?

You can't have it both ways.

 

[magick]

Those pictures and videos of dead children with no wounds are work of Hollywood right?

Showing emotive pictures of dead/injured children and accusations of guilt being made by the same establishment that has already taken us into several middle eastern conflicts based on lies, misinformation and deception does not prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. At least not for me and >90% of the rest of the population.

 

[magick]

I said provide evidence to prove the rebels are guilty that would stand up blah blah blah.

If Assad is innocent then the rebels must be guilty so where is the evidence?

You can't have it both ways.

I'm not the one saying we should start reigning down missiles on Syria be it at the rebels or Assad. When I do then you'r right to ask me to provide concrete evidence to justify such action.

 

[Raymond Lin]

Showing emotive pictures of dead/injured children and accusations of guilt being made by the same establishment that has already taken us into several middle eastern conflicts based on lies, misinformation and deception does not prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. At least not for me and >90% of the rest of the population.

Just to clarify, you will stand by the UN inspector's report right?

 

[n111ck]

I'm not the one saying we should start reigning down missiles on Syria be it at the rebels or Assad. When I do then you'r right to ask me to provide concrete evidence to justify such action.

No but your apathy is shameful and horribly naive.

 

[magick]

No but your apathy is shameful and horribly naive.

You'r horribly naive if you believe we should start another middle eastern war that could pull in a lot of other nations (Iran, Russia, ect) based on the conjecture of people who are proven liars.

 

[Johnnytoxic]

I said provide evidence to prove the rebels are guilty that would stand up blah blah blah.

If Assad is innocent then the rebels must be guilty so where is the evidence?

You can't have it both ways.

You don't need evidence to say the rebels did it. The point is that to attack a country you need evidence that the countries reigime is guilty of a war crime. It would be like attacking Japan because a chemical bomb went off in their underground by terrorists.

 

[Zefan]

That feel when you actually agree with magick.

:edit: Oh not about the false flag stuffs. Just the "what even? You're asking for evidence to NOT start a war? You are quite the mad hatter." stuff.

 

[Raymond Lin]

You don't need evidence to say the rebels did it. The point is that to attack a country you need evidence that the countries reigime is guilty of a war crime. It would be like attacking Japan because a chemical bomb went off in their underground by terrorists.

If Japan is having a civil war, and up to that point there has been consistent shelling and troops against its own people for years and then a chemical weapon went off and lots of civilian dies, then yes, the signs would point to the government in charge.

I mean people might as well say it was the US who fired the chemical weapon in
Syria to create and excuse to invade.

 

[Johnnytoxic]

I mean people might as well say it was the US who fired the chemical weapon in
Syria to create and excuse to invade.

I couldn't 100% rule that out. With the false videos coming out, who knows what's happening.

 

[n111ck]

You'r horribly naive if you believe we should start another middle eastern war that could pull in a lot of other nations (Iran, Russia, ect) based on the conjecture of people who are proven liars.

Seriously? Since when was Assad a trust worthy source? Are you slightly insane or is this really just about attacking the UK / US govts for whatever paranoid agenda you have?

It's sickening the way people are talking about scum like Putin and Assad like their the saviours of the Middle East.

 

[Johnnytoxic]

It's sickening the way people are talking about scum like Putin and Assad like their the saviours of the Middle East.

You should watch other news channels other than Sky, BBC and CNN.

 

[magick]

Seriously? Since when was Assad a trust worthy source? Are you slightly insane or is this really just about attacking the UK / US govts for whatever paranoid agenda you have?

It's sickening the way people are talking about scum like Putin and Assad like their the saviours of the Middle East.

This isn't about Assad being a trust worthy source but more the case of our governments being proven time and time again to be untrustworthy especially when it comes to middle eastern conflicts, war and oil.