2013 Haswell Retina MacBook Pro...

jonneymendoza · 29 Oct 2013 at 14:16

JGBR said:
I mean people can live away from the power processing for awhile. The 15inch really isn't that heavy.

but its larger

You would need a decent size bag to fit it where a 13inch could fit in just a shoulder bag.

glenimp617 · 29 Oct 2013 at 14:18

Spit said:
Epic Glen! How come?

Hello,

I am still unable to provide you with an electric meter reading due to the fact that the meters display is blank. Had you done regular checks like it states on your website, and also on the national grids website you would have noticed that the display had been going faint for months!

Furthermore, I have raised this issue with you countless times since opening the account so I am at a loss as to why it's been left to fail?

Unfortunately, after trying to contact you by phone four times, and after getting cut off each time after being on hold for almost an hour I gave up.

I'm not sure if you have anyone reading your emails, as after sending five I have only received a single reply saying 'Phone us and report the problem'.

Questions

1. Why hasn't the meter been repaired/replaced
2. Why do you not have the staff manning the call center, an hour wait is unacceptable
3. Why after being on hold for all that time, do I then get cut off
4. Why have an email system, if all you reply with is 'Phone us instead'
5. How will you be compensating me for wasting four hours?
6. How will you be able to determine our energy usage now the display is blank? an estimated reading is not acceptable as I will not
be paying for the exact amount. Since I have made significant energy savings over the last few months (LED Bulbs, replacing Plasma TV and PC
with LED and Laptop) an estimate will not be in my favor.

Thanks,
Glen.

====================

The above email was sent to the director of EDF....when I was seeing red. Wasn't very happy as you can probably tell. Pretty awesome goodwill gesture though! I did feel bad after I'd sent it, as I'm one of those types of people who never complains. Glad I did now though....just thinking who else I can complain to lol

JGBR · 29 Oct 2013 at 14:41

jonneymendoza said:
but its larger

You would need a decent size bag to fit it where a 13inch could fit in just a shoulder bag.

Hehe, get a backpack! I still personally do not think it's that large to encumber a decent shoulder bag.

Well done Glen, you'll love the top end. Carrying all that power in something you can carry around is an awesome feeling...well I personally can not feel it in my backpack!

jonneymendoza · 29 Oct 2013 at 14:43

JGBR said:
Hehe, get a backpack! I still personally do not think it's that large to encumber a decent shoulder bag.

Well done Glen, you'll love the top end. Carrying all that power in something you can carry around is an awesome feeling...well I personally can not feel it in my backpack!

I do have a backpack

one of them wont be able to fit the 15inch though!

glenimp617 · 29 Oct 2013 at 14:45

get bigger muscles

jonneymendoza · 29 Oct 2013 at 15:11

i already do

JGBR · 29 Oct 2013 at 15:24

I am that impressed by the 15inch that I haven't turned on my Mac Pro which is plugged into a big 27inch monitor..i'd rather sit at my desk and look at the retina 15inch LOL

McBain · 29 Oct 2013 at 18:54

jonneymendoza said:
UPS are the courier?

i dont get along with them!

Worse courier ever

Yodel says hi

jonneymendoza · 29 Oct 2013 at 20:44

??????

McBain · 29 Oct 2013 at 21:04

jonneymendoza said:
??????

Yodel, as in the courier, they are without a doubt the toilet of the delivery world!

They had to rebrand because they had so much bad press, problem was they didn't improve whatsoever so still get loads of bad press

Naan_H · 29 Oct 2013 at 22:08

Well i picked up the top spec rMBP from the store on the weekend with my cuz's student discount and extra 2 years cover - its a present for the wife actually but no doubt ill be using it a fair bit. At the moment i haven't opened it, will probably on the weekend as have no time. This is my first mac - what lead do i need to connect it at 1440p to one (or in fact three, if possible) of my screens?

Nemesis379 · 29 Oct 2013 at 22:10

Naan_H said:
Well i picked up the top spec rMBP from the store on the weekend with my cuz's student discount and extra 2 years cover - its a present for the wife actually but no doubt ill be using it a fair bit. At the moment i haven't opened it, will probably on the weekend as have no time. This is my first mac - what lead do i need to connect it at 1440p to one (or in fact three, if possible) of my screens?

mini displayport to dual link dvi i believe

Naan_H · 29 Oct 2013 at 22:20

Nemesis379 said:
mini displayport to dual link dvi i believe

Forgive me for being stupid, but is a thunderbolt 2 connection actually a mini displayport connection?

jonneymendoza · 29 Oct 2013 at 22:20

Naan_H said:
Forgive me for being stupid, but is a thunderbolt 2 connection actually a mini displayport connection?

You need to get an adapter for it

Fallen god · 29 Oct 2013 at 22:20

jonneymendoza said:
So even the old 13inch had lag issues? Was it fixed and was there a massive recall on it?

edit: a few hours ago i checked this link https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5481839?start=360&tstart=0 and it was about down to 16 pages of many people having issues. now its on page 26 and no word from apple about this issue.

Putting me off buying the 13inch as i really wanted to get one.

It is now a toss up betwen a samsung 13inch i saw the other day which had an amazing screen and build quality or a 15inch macbook pro retina

It didn't freeze like people have reported in store, it was just some UI lag, like some animations take longer and so on. Most apps I used where just fine, including the web browser which sucked on ML. I just think the res is just too much for the GPU to handle, the 5200 iris pro has more memory bandwidth and you can see it lags a hell of a lot less, or not at all most of the time.

McBain said:
Main areas I noticed lag was, as you say in 'About my mac', launchpad (animations when loading say Terminal), general swiping between screens, minimising and maximising apps from the dock.

Just in general, the whole OS felt laggy to me compared to the 12' Air. Much nicer experience, sure the screen isn't anywhere near as impressive but to me smoothness > screen.

It does feel laggy but for me screen > smoothness since it isn't as bad as before, last year it was a none starter ofc. I will however try it for 1 week before I make my finally judgement and if it doesn't preform I will have to return it for a 15" and pony up the difference.

jonneymendoza · 29 Oct 2013 at 22:27

Fallen god said:
It didn't freeze like people have reported in store, it was just some UI lag, like some animations take longer and so on. Most apps I used where just fine, including the web browser which sucked on ML. I just think the res is just too much for the GPU to handle, the 5200 iris pro has more memory bandwidth and you can see it lags a hell of a lot less, or not at all most of the time.

It does feel laggy but for me screen > smoothness since it isn't as bad as before, last year it was a none starter ofc. I will however try it for 1 week before I make my finally judgement and if it doesn't preform I will have to return it for a 15" and pony up the difference.

So if the hardware simply cant handle it then what can apple do to fix it then?

Spit · 29 Oct 2013 at 22:49

jonneymendoza said:
So if the hardware simply cant handle it then what can apple do to fix it then?

Not a lot, just wait for Broadwell.

jonneymendoza · 29 Oct 2013 at 22:58

wait for 2014 macbook pro? lol not really an option for someone who needs one now

i read this review http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/29/macbook-pro-with-retina-display-review-13-inch-2013/ and it seems that the 15inch version is more expensive then last years version!

here is my case. All 2012 models came with a nvidia 650m GPU that is still a lot better then todays intel iris iGPU and if you dont go for the top end model for the 15inch, you actually get a 15inch mac that doesnt match the old one for video and gaming

Fallen god · 29 Oct 2013 at 22:59

jonneymendoza said:
So if the hardware simply cant handle it then what can apple do to fix it then?

Optimize, and betters drivers from intel can help. Its not a huge issue to be honest and some people wont notice, like my gf didn't notice at all that it was lagging. It is also day and night difference compared to last years model.

Also if you compare the 13" rmbp on ML vs Mavericks theres a lot of work done to make things much smoother and it really shows so it can only get better.

jonneymendoza said:
wait for 2014 macbook pro? lol not really an option for someone who needs one now

i read this review http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/29/macbook-pro-with-retina-display-review-13-inch-2013/ and it seems that the 15inch version is more expensive then last years version!

here is my case. All 2012 models came with a nvidia 650m GPU that is still a lot better then todays intel iris iGPU and if you dont go for the top end model for the 15inch, you actually get a 15inch mac that doesnt match the old one for video and gaming

The base model is cheaper but you lose the didecated GPU and the CPU is a little slower, I would say the 650m is 20% faster then the Iris Pro in the 15". If you need a machine now and it has to be a 15" I would try getting one of an aution site or a refurb off apple. All 15" models I have tested where super smooth and the battery life gains are decent but not a huge leap forward unless you really need it.

Tunney · 29 Oct 2013 at 23:06

jonneymendoza said:
here is my case. All 2012 models came with a nvidia 650m GPU that is still a lot better then todays intel iris iGPU and if you dont go for the top end model for the 15inch, you actually get a 15inch mac that doesnt match the old one for video and gaming

Solution: buy the expensive model.