29 million Bulgarians and Romanians will gain the right to live and work unrestricted in our country

How hasn't mehuk been suspended yet? He's verging on extremist beliefs and talks absolute rubbish.

Why are only right wing beliefs extremist/rubbish? Some people in here are Marxist. One guy is always going on about everyone being equal, how there is no such thing as borders and only white people are racist. Won't someone think of the children?
Besides, eugenics is hardly new when just about everyone in here has a white partner.
 
Why are only right wing beliefs extremist/rubbish? Some people in here are Marxist. One guy is always going on about everyone being equal, how there is no such thing as borders and only white people are racist. Won't someone think of the children?
Besides, eugenics is hardly new when just about everyone in here has a white partner.

Because he's extremely offensive with his approach. Calling all Eastern European women whores for a start...
 
I'm not British/English so I don't really have a right to voice my opinion on the UK but I'm all for people from all over the world traveling to different countries but I think the UK needs to adopt Australia's way of handling it just for a few years to sort itself out.
No skills or qualifications and you want to go straight on to benefits ? No entry.
 
Because he's extremely offensive with his approach. Calling all Eastern European women whores for a start...
Offensive, but with some truth perhaps? It's economic migration with a view to marriage. You can equally condemn visitors to Thailand as users of prostitutes, same thing but one is white.

You can call someone racist in here without providing a shred of justification or even the pretence of trying. It's one of those words that unlike sexist is actually a personal attack because in an age of political correctness white people feel they have to apologise for being white, and in ultra liberal forums like this one you can get freely away with such mod sanctioned abuse.

It kills debate though, why bother trying to justify societies endless special dispensation for your ethnicity when you can just type 'bigoted white racist xenophobe' and walk away from the keyboard thinking you have won :rolleyes:

Meanwhile all the panic stricken liberals don't know whether to apologise first for having a superior culture or for having once been slave owners a hundred years ago.
 
Offensive, but with some truth perhaps? It's economic migration with a view to marriage. You can equally condemn visitors to Thailand as users of prostitutes, same thing but one is white.

You can call someone racist in here without providing a shred of justification or even the pretence of trying. It's one of those words that unlike sexist is actually a personal attack because in an age of political correctness white people feel they have to apologise for being white, and in ultra liberal forums like this one you can get freely away with such mod sanctioned abuse.

It kills debate though, why bother trying to justify societies endless special dispensation for your ethnicity when you can just type 'bigoted white racist xenophobe' and walk away from the keyboard thinking you have won :rolleyes:

Meanwhile all the panic stricken liberals don't know whether to apologise first for having a superior culture or for having once been slave owners a hundred years ago.

Some truth? Lol have you been at the Christmas sherry or something?
 
One thing I have noticed especially among friends, Work colleagues and in general, The ones to spit their dummy out and cry "Racist" are usually the type of people that are all theory and want to look like the good guy even if the person they are screaming "Racist" to couldn't give a hoot what creed or color said person is.
The sad thing today is that people use the term "Racist" all too often when it is a very offensive term.
Personally I despise all of humanity :p
 
This cretin, mehuk, may not be racist, be he is incredibly offensive.

He also judges people based on their nationality. I don't know what to call that, but it is entirely ridiculous, once again, as if they took him as a sample of the whole UK, which would be incredibly embarrassing.

What the hell are you talking about, pure blood?! No one's blood is pure, you sound like a ******* cracker. I can't believe you'd defend him, bitslice.
 
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What the hell are you talking about, pure blood?! No one's blood is pure, you sound like a ******* cracker. I can't believe you'd defend him, bitslice.

Stop being a racist also using southern American terms is just silly. You're all as bad as each other.
 
Some truth? Lol have you been at the Christmas sherry or something?

Well lets get the quote right first, it's not 'all', it's "the Eastern European whores that come over".
Now given the sexual reference I'm assuming he means the Mail Order brides version rather than the ones with a PhD looking for Aerospace work. A lesser known definition of whore is 'a person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain' which would appear to cover marriage for economic reasons.

I'm not agreeing with his position or choice of words, I quite like EE women, I'm just defending a principle.
 
TWhat the hell are you talking about, pure blood?! No one's blood is pure, you sound like a ******* cracker. I can't believe you'd defend him, bitslice.
Well the Nazis weren't overly concerned with pure blood, just going back a generation or so was OK, just so long as you looked the part of an Aryan (blond, blue eyes etc). Bear in mind some middle eastern people have blond hair and blue eyes.

We all have preferences in partners, it's no big deal to want children without the visible defects that result from the inbreeding of other races.

We identify asians from their eye shape and africans from their nose shape, these are all inbreeding traits. Europeans are such a mixture that these are less common, unless you count ginger hair.
Blue eyes and blond hair are commonly seen as attractive qualities amongst Europeans so we possibly have some in built preference for only breeding from such a gene pool? I'm pretty sure it was proven that humans have some inherent dislike of people who don't look like them, a hangover from our tribal past perhaps.

I'll defend anything based on principle or to correct an inaccuracy. Colour doesn't mean a fig to me, I'm only interested in culture.
 
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Stop being a racist also using southern American terms is just silly. You're all as bad as each other.

That would be true, but you read the context. It's about him being crazy.

Well the Nazis weren't overly concerned with pure blood, just going back a generation or so was OK, just so long as you looked the part of an Aryan (blond, blue eyes etc). Bear in mind some middle eastern people have blond hair and blue eyes.

We all have preferences in partners, it's no big deal to want children without the visible defects that result from the inbreeding of other races.

We identify asians from their eye shape and africans from their nose shape, these are all inbreeding traits. Europeans are such a mixture that these are less common, unless you count ginger hair.
Blue eyes and blond hair are commonly seen as attractive qualities amongst Europeans so we possibly have some in built preference for only breeding from such a gene pool? I'm pretty sure it was proven that humans have some inherent dislike of people who don't look like them, a hangover from our tribal past perhaps.

I'll defend anything based on principle or to correct an inaccuracy. Colour doesn't mean a fig to me, I'm only interested in culture.

My comments weren't based on his preference, it was the idea that anyone could actually be pure blood. Unless he lives in a remote tribe that has never encountered anyone from outside of that tribe, it's incredibly unlikely that he is a "pure" blood.

Of course, I think you should choose your partner on whatever merits you desire.

I can see what you mean with regards to genetics. I think that you're probably right; humans desire traits such as wide hips on women etc because that's what, in evolutionary terms, we require to further the race. Having said that, I don't think it's necessary applicable these days because we have preferences that far outweigh that. Although, these evolutionary preferences no doubt still have some weight.

I object to what he said on the basis that it was offensive, and ridiculous. He can believe what he wants to believe, but, as you know, if I find it disagreeable then I will say. Perhaps I'm overly sensitive :p

Hopefully you find my response sufficiently corrective.

For the sake of moving forward a bit, I'm not convinced that you're a racist, but the way you come across says otherwise. I hope you can take that as a perspective.
 
My comments weren't based on his preference, it was the idea that anyone could actually be pure blood. Unless he lives in a remote tribe that has never encountered anyone from outside of that tribe, it's incredibly unlikely that he is a "pure" blood.

Heh, Tefal beat me too it, I was just going to say it sounds like H.Potter or a Twilight fan.
I gather 'Pure Blood' in the Nationalistic sense is going to be anyone who looks like a stereotypical Nordic/Aryan, I'd imagine the point of that is that they will then identify most with the values and culture of that group rather than anyone different (although you would have to stereotype all other groups in order to delineate such a difference). In this context it's possibly easier to associate 'White people' with some kind of 1950's Christian AngloSaxon entity?


I object to what he said on the basis that it was offensive, and ridiculous. Hopefully you find my response sufficiently corrective.
Yup, White Nationalism is always going to be offensive to other groups because it values them as inferior, it's possibly offensive to whites because global internationalism and education has made most countries roughly the same so it's hard to value one culture over another unless you are particularly pleased about your own.

What makes white nationalism technically so extreme is that English culture is no longer a 1950's Christian AngloSaxon entity, it's essentially what they would say is a degenerate version of that (hence the tone of annoyance).

For the sake of moving forward a bit, I'm not convinced that you're a racist, but the way you come across says otherwise. I hope you can take that as a perspective.
Racism is always associated with race, black people supposedly being less capable than whites, but this seems redundant while a black man is president of America.
However you can also be a cultural racist, by disliking certain stereotypes of cultures that merely happen to be associated with a race and that race merely happens to be a certain colour.

Colour racism is illogical because not all members of a race can be deemed stupid, but a race's culture is an overview of that race and you can perhaps treat the whole as being representative?

It's partly illogical because not all members of that race will feel that such a cultural stereotype properly represents them, the left and right wing of the UK have different ideas about what makes up British culture for instance. One guy on here said the UK represents multicultural tolerance, I of course suggested it represented the exact opposite :)

If everyone in all the different countries were white, you couldn't be a "racist" any more but you could still be a cultural racist. I'm probably more associated with the later, in that I generally only like certain aspects of certain cultures and dislike others. Although it is hard to define a culture.

Importantly Racism can be seen as personal "I don't like that <colour> man".
Cultural Racism is impersonal, "I don't like that man's culture".
 
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