Sanctions to hit part time workers

Rather that they create an economy and environment which enables businesses to flourish and businesses create jobs.

They don't. Businesses employ people, demand creates jobs. It's a huge difference.

The complaint is that people who are currently working part-time are to be penalised for not earning enough, regardless of the reasons why they are only part-time staff.
 
Whats your back story Frightful Boar? or Just playing Devils advocate?

Or would it be prudent for your argument for me to just assume born with money rather than worked for it.

Me, im educated Working class University degree worked in oil and gas, had loads of cash, now currently unemployed looking for a job in Sweden, living off savings until it runs out.
 
Whats your back story Frightful Boar? or Just playing Devils advocate?

Or would it be prudent for your argument for me to just assume born with money rather than worked for it.

Me, im educated Working class University degree worked in oil and gas, had loads of cash, now currently unemployed looking for a job in Sweden, living off savings until it runs out.

Nothing to do with being born to money.

I grew up in a country with actual poverty. The starving to death type.

Nobody got government handouts, and people worked hard for what they got.

Seeing people complain about life here is feeble. I appreciate that it's relative, but c'mon, you can do anything here and people's choice is to whine and complain about not getting enough off the government. I see it from a different viewpoint is all.
 
Nobody said it's pleasant, but if you don't like it, get a better job. And you might struggle, but that's life.

This is my point. If you don't earn much you ain't gonna live that well. Stands to reason. Don't like it, earn more.

Jesus wept mate, "Don't like it, Earn more" is that really your argument?
This whole thing has come about coz there are no bloody jobs, and the people that are looking for them are applying for roles where there are 2/3 jobs and hundreds applying. I wish I lived in your fantasy world.


The "get a decent job" argument just isn't a valid one. There are more people than there are jobs, full stop. That's jobs of any sort, crap ones, part-time ones, etc.

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Must be nice to live in your world where life is so simple with absolutely no complications that might prevent someone from doing this.

This exactly

Is it really so hard for you to understand?.

Back with the internet cliches. Someone doesn't agree with me, I'll accuse them of not understanding.

How many times have I got to say "jobs don't create themselves, people create them"?

I will admit though that lazy people don't create them.

You should speak to the government, maybe tell them how to create these mythical jobs you keep banging on about?
 
Haha, have you really just told me to speak to the government when I've spent three pages encouraging people not to rely on the government and to create jobs themselves?

Genius!

Yup ;)

By your reasoning "anyone" can "create jobs", give a man a fish, teach a man to fish all that malarkey.

Why instead of having one person "create" one job why wouldn't you have someone higher up "create many jobs"

Afterall "creating a job" is easy isn't it? ;)
 
I grew up in a country with actual poverty.

USA ? :p

Well you certainly type like you have been privately educated at some point ?
Well whatever, cool story bro etc.. yes it is all relative i agree, maybe adjust your tone to the relativity of living in the UK? not "XXX Africa" or whatever.
 
Nothing to do with being born to money.

I grew up in a country with actual poverty. The starving to death type.

Nobody got government handouts, and people worked hard for what they got.

Seeing people complain about life here is feeble. I appreciate that it's relative, but c'mon, you can do anything here and people's choice is to whine and complain about not getting enough off the government. I see it from a different viewpoint is all.
But if those people wanted to work hard & make jobs why didn't they? (as opposed to starve to death?) - assuming effort is everything.

What you are implying is nations with no government handouts to assist the poorest are significantly worse as people starve to death, if death isn't a big enough motivation then perhaps you should reconsider the underline political theory which advocates punitive measures for the jobless.

Wouldn't it logically fit into a scale with societies being the worst with no welfare (people starving to death) - our current society with some welfare (still poverty with people complaining) - or say, Norway with a very generous welfare state with a much happier & equal population.

Your own statements undermine your argument.
 
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Yup ;)

By your reasoning "anyone" can "create jobs", give a man a fish, teach a man to fish all that malarkey.

Why instead of having one person "create" one job why wouldn't you have someone higher up "create many jobs"

Afterall "creating a job" is easy isn't it? ;)

You seem to be one of these people (who are weirdly common online) who invent things that other people say.

I never once said it was easy.

USA ? :p

Well you certainly type like you have been privately educated at some point ?
Well whatever, cool story bro etc.. yes it is all relative i agree, maybe adjust your tone to the relativity of living in the UK? not "XXX Africa" or whatever.

Excellent point. I find Socialism detestable, so I can't lower myself to adjust. All just my opinion though, unsure why so many people have a cow about it.

I'm going to guess South Africa based on a hunch.

Well you are one of the people who attack my every post and I have mentioned that I'm South African many times. Well done though.
 
You seem to be one of these people (who are weirdly common online) who invent things that other people say.

I never once said it was easy.

Excellent point. I find Socialism detestable, so I can't lower myself to adjust. All just my opinion though, unsure why so many people have a cow about it.

Well you are one of the people who attack my every post and I have mentioned that I'm South African many times. Well done though.
Which core tenants of socialism do you find detestable?.
 
Which core tenants of socialism do you find detestable?.

You don't really care, you're just trying to catch me out with your cleverness.

That said, I don't like the parts where they take my money and give it to other people.

Now, there's no argument needed there, that's just how I feel. Let's see if you can accept that other people might not have the same opinions as you.
 
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