'Contact lost' with Malaysia Airlines plane

Tuppy_Glossop said:
Iraq missions also flew from U-tapao. And the two guys were Iranian, so by your logic they would be happy with Diego Garcia helping to defeat Iraq.
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Damn they were Iranian, I honestly dont know where i got that from. I guess U-tapao was near enough on their flight path so it certainly would have made more sense to target that base..getting quite close to Bangkok aswell so maybe a ladyboy with a bazooka? :eek:
 
So, the guy on the oil platform saw flames in the sky and, apparently, something landed in the sea in that area. But a plane itself flew off west, tracked by primary radar.

Tin foil hats out :cool:
 
There must be some House of Cards stuff going on between USA and China. Like someone shot it down and they are figuring out how to avoid the drama.
 
Westyfield2 said:
So I've just been catching up on today's news. Seems like a bit of progress maybe:

[Early on this morning]
The shutdown of two communication systems happened separately, which presumably means it was done so deliberately and not a catastrophic failure. The data reporting system, they believe, was shut down at 1:07 a.m. The transponder -- which transmits location and altitude -- shut down at 1:21 a.m.

The ACARS system that the airline use only transmits over VHF radio. They have not paid for the satellite subscription. So if it's out of radio range, then no data. The aircraft does however have SATCOM equipment fitted (just that ACARS can't use it).
The US are saying that the engine communications system kept 'pinging' for 4 hours, every 30mins, after the aircraft is meant to have disappeared. No data was transmitted, but the plane was sending the keep-alive signal like mobile phones do. So the aircraft can't have been completely destroyed. The US aren't saying what their source of this intelligence is (assuming it's either Spy satellites listening in to every signal on earth or they've raided the logs of Inmarsat/Iridium/Thuraya).

[Later this morning]
Military radar says it followed a proper flightpath (using known waypoints) heading towards the Andaman Islands.
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Not sure where you get that from. Boeing themselves said that this particular plane was not fitted with that type of comms equipment, hence it fell outside scope of the proposed AD repair
 
Jokester said:
On the seismic detection angle, the US certainly has the capability and have done for decades to hear that sort of thing underwater as they've been able to triangulate where Russian subs have sunk in the past and then try to recover them to reverse engineer any technology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSF_Explorer

It's an amazing story.
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Yep, this whole area around the South China Sea is pretty much within the 'ring of fire' they'll have some pretty impressive seismometers around there. Certainly possible that they would notice 250tonnes of metal hitting the seabed.
 
touch said:
Yep, this whole area around the South China Sea is pretty much within the 'ring of fire' they'll have some pretty impressive seismometers around there. Certainly possible that they would notice 250tonnes of metal hitting the seabed.
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Indeed, but did they not state much earlier that no such event had been triggered.
Perhaps this was another load of BS from the haphazard Malaysians, but I was sure it had previously been referenced.
 
Just read on Sky news app, satellites received signals upto 5 hours from last communication! Proper What The Fudge moment...

Leads me to think it was taken control by crew/hijackers and diverted to different location, by which time the authorities realised certain things we're turned off and maybe they shot the thing down. Anyone's guess now.
 
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dannyjo22 said:
It doesn't illustrate anything if the comment of fuses behind a communication board was a load of ****.

Anyway I will let people get back to googling crap articles written by journalists scouring pprune and bow out. I have to work tonight and as much as I hate working with aircraft I hate talking about them even more in my free time :D

If I get any Comms and Nav issues tonight I will be sure to come to ocuk for system resets.
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It would be easier to just post what you know to be true about the subject?
 
touch said:
Yep, this whole area around the South China Sea is pretty much within the 'ring of fire' they'll have some pretty impressive seismometers around there. Certainly possible that they would notice 250tonnes of metal hitting the seabed.
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Except it wouldn't have it the seabed as 250 tonnes
 
Tingtangmakadingdong said:
Just read on Sky news app, satellites received signals upto 5 hours from last communication! Proper What The Fudge moment...

Leads me to think it was taken control by crew/hijackers and diverted to different location, by which time the authorities realised certain things we're turned off and maybe they shot the thing down. Anyone's guess now.
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Yes but might a ping not be transmitted by an intact piece of equipment as part of a complete debris field, and not fail until later, or do we assume one crash everything dies bar the black boxes which you have to be within a couple of miles to pick up the signal from.
 
touch said:
Yep, this whole area around the South China Sea is pretty much within the 'ring of fire' they'll have some pretty impressive seismometers around there. Certainly possible that they would notice 250tonnes of metal hitting the seabed.
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That doesn't happen though, when an aeroplane hits the water it disintegrates and the ocean absorbs the entire force of the impact, it doesn't get transmitted to the seabed.
 
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