'Contact lost' with Malaysia Airlines plane

dannyjo22 said:
Flag up when? About a week later. The pilot of our flights tells the re-fuellers how much fuel he wants by a flip card in the FO's window. It's then fuelled to that level. If the pilot reuests for example 1000kgs more than the computed route, the company with want a report from him why the hell it was done. Fuel weight is so critical to costs.

By then it's far too late if this is what happened. Fuel weight/efficiency is looked at more than anything else but not at point of delivery.
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In that case it would be even easier for the pilot to have "brimmed" it so to say.

My point is Authorities are saying with the amount of fuel on board he could fly so far. But do they know how much he had on board. they will know how much he filled up with but how much was already onboard
 
mattyg said:
In that case it would be even easier for the pilot to have "brimmed" it so to say.

My point is Authorities are saying with the amount of fuel on board he could fly so far. But do they know how much he had on board. they will know how much he filled up with but how much was already onboard
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Yes they will know what he had on board, exactly to the kg.
 
They're now painting the pilot as some sort of political fanatic that was butthurt about the opposition leader being sent to prison hours before the plane went missing.

If that really was the case I can't see any of this being pre-planned so the southern route makes more sense but they why fly in to the middle of the ocean to crash a plane when you could've done it off the coast of Malaysia or in to a target on the mainland?

I'm becoming obsessed with this. F5, F5, F5 :(
 
Pigeon_Killer said:
They're now painting the pilot as some sort of political fanatic that was butthurt about the opposition leader being sent to prison hours before the plane went missing.

If that really was the case I can't see any of this being pre-planned so the southern route makes more sense but they why fly in to the middle of the ocean to crash a plane when you could've done it off the coast of Malaysia or in to a target on the mainland?

I'm becoming obsessed with this. F5, F5, F5 :(
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Have a read of this then

Shouldn't take long..:rolleyes:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/othe...earch-operations-ongoing-please-see-wiki.html
 
mattyg said:
In that case it would be even easier for the pilot to have "brimmed" it so to say.

My point is Authorities are saying with the amount of fuel on board he could fly so far. But do they know how much he had on board. they will know how much he filled up with but how much was already onboard
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Captain will ask for a final fuel figure and the refueller will fuel to that point. The amount of litres uplifted will have been recorded by the refueller and possibly the final fuel figure.

The incoming tech log page should also have been removed by the maintenance team prior to departure which will show how much fuel the aircraft had left onboard from the previous flight. It should n't be hard to work out exactly how much fuel the aircraft had prior to departure.
 
Drukk said:
Captain will ask for a final fuel figure and the refueller will fuel to that point. The amount of litres uplifted will have been recorded by the refueller and possibly the final fuel figure.

The incoming tech log page should also have been removed by the maintenance team prior to departure which will show how much fuel the aircraft had left onboard from the previous flight. It should n't be hard to work out exactly how much fuel the aircraft had prior to departure.
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I did think that the incoming flight would record what was left. Just wasn't sure
 
Looking at the course plot in post 1142 http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=26007776&postcount=1142 It looks like something might of happened in the cockpit causing those turns.

First turn someone redircts the plane, something happens and it's then back on a heading for its original destination over the andaman sea then something else happens and it sort of heads to where it was redirected to and then contact is lost.

If the doors locked, co-pilot and pilot fighting for control?
 
spookywillow said:
Looking at the course plot in post 1142 http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=26007776&postcount=1142 It looks like something might of happened in the cockpit causing those turns.

First turn someone redircts the plane, something happens and it's then back on a heading for its original destination over the andaman sea then something else happens and it sort of heads to where it was redirected to and then contact is lost.

If the doors locked, co-pilot and pilot fighting for control?
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It's an interesting theory. Vampi > Gival waypoints it does seem to be heading straight for Beijing again.
 
Another interesting question is why on earth is there virtually no primary radar coverage? Enough radar sites and you can get latitude, longitude, altitude and derive velocity, acceleration and trajectory from that.
 
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Lysander said:
It's an interesting theory. Vampi > Gival waypoints it does seem to be heading straight for Beijing again.
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Haha, can just hear the pilot announcement

We will be arriving at our destination approximately 1 hour late, this is due to a failed hijacking. Sorry for any inconvienience. Ground staff have been notified and will re-arrange any onward flights prior to your arrival in Beijing.
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Lysander said:
It's an interesting theory. Vampi > Gival waypoints it does seem to be heading straight for Beijing again.
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Could go as far to say the fake passport guys payed off the pilot to fly the plane for them, they start killing people and pilot backs out and redirects plane to original destination and pilot then gets killed himself. Fake guys pilot try to pilot it hence the not exactly the same direction as it was first redirected to and they end up in the drink.
 
breaking news now... apparently the US have released satellite imagery of the flight in Iran - current theory is that its a hijacking/theft related to the engineers onboard
 
Those zig-zags would also be effective if they were trying to not be detected, the original deviation is at the mid point between 2 areas though they then end up having to make their way down the Indian ocean dodging main air routes as theres very little chance they'd have been unnoticed approaching India and likewise heading into the South China Seas which are currently highly monitored.
 
dowie said:
breaking news now... apparently the US have released satellite imagery of the flight in Iran - current theory is that its a hijacking/theft related to the engineers onboard
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Damn it you can't hit and run breaking news without a link!

A quick google didn't find anything.. also nothing about it in the recent pages in the pprune thread

source pl0x
 
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