Dead. Or being kept to hold to ransom at a later date.
'Contact lost' with Malaysia Airlines plane
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Dead. Or being kept to hold to ransom at a later date.
Neither will switching the power off...
That's why I said they should be independently powered though.
No it isn't. The standard procedure for fire is to land asap. Not sure how you thinking climbing and diving in a sealed pressurised aircraft is going to help put out a fire.
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What do they gain by not saying their demands straight away? If it was a hijacking for ransom money/grand gesture the people behind it probably would have announced it already.
Sherlock here. Whilst you are indeed 100% correct, and I think everyone else is aware of this, it's not what other people, and myself are argueing.
IF it made it over land and flew at that altitude people would have noticed. Your little theory above would lead to it not making it over land and ditching into the 'blue stuff'. A plane crashing 10 days ago into the sea would have resulted in items being washed up on shore by now. Or atleast debris being found.
They are dead... A hijack would probably be used for a 9/11 style attack and the people are not needed. Keeping them alive would just increase the possibility that one escapes or does something to give away a position.
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Keep the passengers alive, load them back onto the plane with a 'dirty' bomb, fly it at the nuclear summit in Genova on 26th March where lots of the worlds leaders are gathered
Watch the west shoot down a plane full of innocent [chinese] civilians
Keep the passengers alive, load them back onto the plane with a 'dirty' bomb, fly it at the nuclear summit in Genova on 26th March where lots of the worlds leaders are gathered
Watch the west shoot down a plane full of innocent [chinese] civilians
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Sold into Kazakhstanese slavery.
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2014 ICC Cricket World Cup is on now in Bangladesh. Hope it isn't a target. Remember the attack on the Sri Lankan team coach four years ago ? Lots of potential targets from a fundamentalist's pov. Plane + full stadium = lots of death 
In a controlled ditch it should have held together pretty well and possibly sank after that. Although if it did break up the area of ocean is huge and wouldnt be suprised if nothing had been found as it would have dispersed in the following 10 days so it would be a needle in a haystack
Finally understood the satellite ping thing. The satellite sends out a signal to ask the plane if it's still there if it hasn't heard from it for a while. The plane receives it and sends out a signal acknowledging its presence. There is no other data in it than that. That's why it can't be triangulated.
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And I'm guessing the arc is based on which satellite received it (closest within line of sight)?
I am not expert here either, far from it. But a controlled ditch, in the middle of the sea, at night, with a severe failure?
250+ bodies and many pieces. Someone would have seen something by now, fisherman? Other flights? Search parties? Things washed up on land? Has been 10 days like you said...
Don't get me wrong, i could be well wrong and it could have hit the sea and nothing has been found, and perhaps the more logical me is agreeing with this outcome.
I just can't shake the feeling deep down that something more sinister is at play.
The satellite sends out arcs every 30 mins - 2 hours to ask the plane "are you still there?" the plane just acknowledges that it is. It's just an acknowledgement, it doesn't give anything back like its position.
I think the answer to that is along the lines of: How do you propose to 'triangulate' something using a single satellite?
AFAIK they've used the signal strength to get a rough estimate but that's all it is.
You need signals from 3 satellites to triangulate
The reason it can't be triangulated is because it was only in the range of 1 satellite. The satellites operated by inmarsat are communication sats, not gps sats. They don't have coverage of multiple sats across the world like the gps network. Gps triangulation requires a minimum of 3 satellites in range to work, communications only need 1 in range.
I used a plane finder app to. No luck. I think a lot of this technology relies on the transponder; since that was turned off we are blind. Next is radar, but that only detects objects that are in the air above 5,000ft. Since that is definately not the case now, it's no use.
I thought however the black box always emitted a signal, and this could not be turned off? Or does it only become activated in a disaster scenario?
Just quickly checked re black boxes. They emitt signals once a crash has happened, and they have very limited range. In the scenario of a crash at sea, they amit sonar. Again very limited range. Can't believe black boxes do not have GPS technology.
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