Atheists unite

I've been a big fan of Arron Ra for several years. I'm subscribed to his YouTube channel and saw this Patreon request the other day.

For those that wonder why any atheist should donate, you need the context of religion in America. It's a complex issue which I'm not getting into here, but if you are aware of it you might what to consider donating. It is a very worthy cause. Remember, preachers in America earn a living doing their preaching, atheists have to make do with donations and hold down real life jobs in order to pay their bills.

I am an atheist.

Whilst most of the times I can see different points of views I am struggling with this. I don't mean any direspect either.

'Preachers' speak 'the word of God' and 'enlighten' followers. Educating them about religion, etc. Some may argue this does command a wage / salary / donations. They are for all intensive purposes a teacher or some sort.

An atheist preacher / speaker? Teaching you nothing. There is nothing to believe in. Zero. Zilch.

Why doesn't he do what 99% of atheiests do? Not give a ****?
 
Exactly, so why beg for funding on a UK based forum?

The OP is putting the word out in the hope that like minded people might donate. I'd hardly call that begging, it's raising consciousness regarding a very important issue. Granted, here in the UK, many people couldn't give a toss about what goes on in America.

BTW, Arron Ra isn't just some YT atheist posting videos. He spends a lot of time giving lectures around the US and has appeared on 'The Atheist Experience' TV show twice as a guest host. He's as committed to his cause as Richard Dawkins, just not quite as well known.
 
What we have threads on starving yourself but we can't have a thread on atheism?

No one said we couldn't have threads on atheism but why not start one with a discussion rather than a one in a million guy asking for money to drop his day job and do something he enjoys.

I would suggest you don't even start because you seem best suited to donate to your local church instead.

Why would I do that when I don't support them? None of my money goes to religious views of any kind as I previously said but don't let that point upset your comeback :p
 
I am an atheist.

Whilst most of the times I can see different points of views I am struggling with this. I don't mean any direspect either.

'Preachers' speak 'the word of God' and 'enlighten' followers. Educating them about religion, etc. Some may argue this does command a wage / salary / donations. They are for all intensive purposes a teacher or some sort.

An atheist preacher / speaker? Teaching you nothing. There is nothing to believe in. Zero. Zilch.

Why doesn't he do what 99% of atheiests do? Not give a ****?

This.

An Atheist fundamnentally believes in nothing.

Therefore they have nothing to preach.
 
How does you playing games (poorly) offer anything to anyone else? this is a big difference, this guy creates amazing lectures, presentations and debates. He is saying that he would like to make more of them but he does not have time because he has to work at an insurance company all day.

I play football. Would love to play football more. However I have a job (coincidently in insurance) that I have to go to all day.

PAY ME SO I CAN PLAY FOOTBALL MORE PLEASE!!!
 
I am an atheist.

Whilst most of the times I can see different points of views I am struggling with this. I don't mean any direspect either.

'Preachers' speak 'the word of God' and 'enlighten' followers. Educating them about religion, etc. Some may argue this does command a wage / salary / donations. They are for all intensive purposes a teacher or some sort.

An atheist preacher / speaker? Teaching you nothing. There is nothing to believe in. Zero. Zilch.

Why doesn't he do what 99% of atheiests do? Not give a ****?

I rarely if ever donate to anything in my entire life. Bar a few things here and there. I have certainly never donated on a monthly basis. This just shows that me posting this is not something that i would ever usually do and i completely understand if you don't want to donate, especially if you never heard of the guy. I don't see what him being american has to do with it though. I would suggest watching his videos first of course, otherwise you would be donating blindly and would be no better than a religious blindly throwing money at a cause.
 
This.

An Atheist fundamnentally believes in nothing.

Therefore they have nothing to preach.

That's so not true.

Atheism is a belief system, it is not absence of belief but belief in absence of God(s).

I would suggest watching his videos first of course, otherwise you would be donating blindly and would be no better than a religious blindly throwing money at a cause.

You may think that you are better than "a religious" and you may think your cause better, but you are wrong.
 
I play football. Would love to play football more. However I have a job (coincidently in insurance) that I have to go to all day.

PAY ME SO I CAN PLAY FOOTBALL MORE PLEASE!!!

Again, how would anyone else benefit from you playing football? at least if you make an analogy make it relevant.

If you have something that you think people will pay for, then create an art account on pateron and we can see if people do want to watch you play football or pc games.
 
Remind me again why atheism isn't a belief system?

Atheism is nothing more than a lack of a belief in a god or deity for most.

The most recent OED definition:

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I identify as the latter as would most atheists (agnostic atheism).

It being the right way round would help but I'm on a mobile.
 
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His videos are about the best on evolution and Phylogeny. This is why i am promoting his page because i think it is good. If you are aware of all these videos that already exist, i would like to see them, so please post them.

His wife is a teacher and they work together to create these materials, they are about the best i have ever come across.

What we have threads on starving yourself but we can't have a thread on atheism?


Stanford professor Robert Sapolsky lectures on the biology of behavioral evolution and thoroughly discusses examples such as The Prisoner's Dilemma.

Thats one of MANY videos on one of many universities youtube feeds. Best bit is, its even an American University :)
 
Again, how would anyone else benefit from you playing football? at least if you make an analogy make it relevant.

If you have something that you think people will pay for, then create an art account on pateron and we can see if people do want to watch you play football or pc games.

You're right 99.9% of the people in this world would not benefit from me playing football. Only the people interested in football.

Same goes for your American hero. 99.9% of the people will not benefit from your hero making more videos. Only the people interested in him.

I bet football has more of a following than he does though.
 
The OP is putting the word out in the hope that like minded people might donate. I'd hardly call that begging, it's raising consciousness regarding a very important issue. Granted, here in the UK, many people couldn't give a toss about what goes on in America.

BTW, Arron Ra isn't just some YT atheist posting videos. He spends a lot of time giving lectures around the US and has appeared on 'The Atheist Experience' TV show twice as a guest host. He's as committed to his cause as Richard Dawkins, just not quite as well known.

The westborough baptist church goes around america lecturing people too, but would I want to give them money? ;)
 
Still stands. A belief in nothing. Was does one teach?

I have no idea what they teach, as I'm not an atheist and not daft enough to give one money and watch their lectures.

It is a positive belief in something though, not absence of belief. It is a belioef that there is no deity/are no deities. Saying that it is unbelief or absence of belief is incorrect.
 
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