Israel/Palestine Shenanigans

[dirtychinchilla]

Well all that went over bitslice's head, but he always failed to notice the human and emotional aspect of every situation. Nicely said Farore.

 

[scorza]

Israel accepts terms of Egyptian sponsored truce, looks like Hamas won't. Palestinian suffering continues

 

[aardvark]

yeah, nicely said Farore.

 

[jcr]

Not sure if Im wrong but I have been told that its always the Palestinians that are rejecting peace treaties. Their own worst enemy type of thing.

 

[dirtychinchilla]

Mmm it seems that way, but I don't think they consider themselves (and quite rightly, in my opinion) the aggressors. Israel is calling for peace when it continually breaks ceasefire agreements and acts as it does.

 

[sports_brah]

"Each and every missile launched against Israel constitutes a warcrime against humanity
http://blog.unwatch.org/index.php/2...-israel-constitutes-a-crime-against-humanity/


Palestinian UN Representative.

Israel accepts terms of Egyptian sponsored truce, looks like Hamas won't. Palestinian suffering continues

Lets see how this pans out.

 

[Westyfield2]

Egypt have announced a ceasefire peace proposal. Remember that this is Egypt that's a Muslim country and not a Jewish country, so arguably could be seen as being more likely to support Palestine than Israel.

Israel have accepted the peace proposal.

Israel have announced that they are currently observing the ceasefire.

Palestine has rejected the peace proposal.

Palestine has announced that "Our battle with the enemy will intensify."

at Palestine.


EDIT: Watching Sky News live for the cabinet reshuffle. They went to their reporter live in Israel to discuss the ceasefire, and during the live TV report 2minutes ago the air raid sirens went off and the cameraman focused on a rocket coming over from Gaza and being intercepted by the Iron Dome.
Maybe the word "ceasefire" isn't in the Palestine dictionary?

 

[XeNoN89]

Egypt have announced a ceasefire peace proposal. Remember that this is Egypt that's a Muslim country and not a Jewish country, so arguably could be seen as being more likely to support Palestine than Israel.

Israel have accepted the peace proposal.

Israel have announced that they are currently observing the ceasefire.

Palestine has rejected the peace proposal.

Palestine has announced that "Our battle with the enemy will intensify."

at Palestine.


EDIT: Watching Sky News live for the cabinet reshuffle. They went to their reporter live in Israel to discuss the ceasefire, and during the live TV report 2minutes ago the air raid sirens went off and the cameraman focused on a rocket coming over from Gaza and being intercepted by the Iron Dome.
Maybe the word "ceasefire" isn't in the Palestine dictionary?

And this is why i don't care what happens

Lets see the anti-israeli muslims in here somehow blame 'the jews' for this as well

 

[Xordium]

Egypt have announced a ceasefire peace proposal. Remember that this is Egypt that's a Muslim country and not a Jewish country, so arguably could be seen as being more likely to support Palestine than Israel.

Except that has generally been the case for years. What you say is worthless because you've just simplified the regional dynamics to the point of meaninglessness.

 

[Tinders]

Egypt have announced a ceasefire peace proposal. Remember that this is Egypt that's a Muslim country and not a Jewish country, so arguably could be seen as being more likely to support Palestine than Israel.

Israel have accepted the peace proposal.

Israel have announced that they are currently observing the ceasefire.

Palestine has rejected the peace proposal.

Palestine has announced that "Our battle with the enemy will intensify."

at Palestine.


EDIT: Watching Sky News live for the cabinet reshuffle. They went to their reporter live in Israel to discuss the ceasefire, and during the live TV report 2minutes ago the air raid sirens went off and the cameraman focused on a rocket coming over from Gaza and being intercepted by the Iron Dome.
Maybe the word "ceasefire" isn't in the Palestine dictionary?

Its Hamas not Palestine, that has rejected the ceasefire. Whats point of a ceasefire now, theyve destroyed pretty much everything, may aswell finish job and flatten Gaza so they can build more settlements and import more Zionists from the west
.

 

[RDM]

Its Hamas not Palestine, that has rejected the ceasefire. Whats point of a ceasefire now, theyve destroyed pretty much everything, may aswell finish job and flatten Gaza so they can build more settlements and import more Zionists from the west
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Gaza doesn't have any settlements in it.

 

[XeNoN89]

Israel have resumed their military operation after continued rocket fire from Gaza while they were trying to hold the ceasefire.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28314604


Lmao at people blaming Israel instead of Hamas for this.

 

[dirtychinchilla]

Egypt have announced a ceasefire peace proposal. Remember that this is Egypt that's a Muslim country and not a Jewish country, so arguably could be seen as being more likely to support Palestine than Israel.

Israel have accepted the peace proposal.

Israel have announced that they are currently observing the ceasefire.

Palestine has rejected the peace proposal.

Palestine has announced that "Our battle with the enemy will intensify."

at Palestine.


EDIT: Watching Sky News live for the cabinet reshuffle. They went to their reporter live in Israel to discuss the ceasefire, and during the live TV report 2minutes ago the air raid sirens went off and the cameraman focused on a rocket coming over from Gaza and being intercepted by the Iron Dome.
Maybe the word "ceasefire" isn't in the Palestine dictionary?

No, Egypt and Israel proposed the ceasefire, brokered by Egypt. Hamas have not been told the terms of the ceasefire and refused to accept or decline it. I don't blame them; do they really think that Israel will stick to a ceasefire?

 

[LOAM]

If you put two idiots in a room don't expect anything other than idiocy.

 

[Westyfield2]

Egypt have announced a ceasefire peace proposal. Remember that this is Egypt that's a Muslim country and not a Jewish country, so arguably could be seen as being more likely to support Palestine than Israel.

Israel have accepted the peace proposal.

Israel have announced that they are currently observing the ceasefire.

Palestine has rejected the peace proposal.

Palestine has announced that "Our battle with the enemy will intensify."

at Palestine.


EDIT: Watching Sky News live for the cabinet reshuffle. They went to their reporter live in Israel to discuss the ceasefire, and during the live TV report 2minutes ago the air raid sirens went off and the cameraman focused on a rocket coming over from Gaza and being intercepted by the Iron Dome.
Maybe the word "ceasefire" isn't in the Palestine dictionary?

...and now the ceasefire is over.

Hamas rejected the ceasefire at 9AM today. IDF respected it anyway for six hours. During those six hours, 47 rockets were launched from Gaza. After 6 hours of one sided aggression, Israel has given up on the ceasefire and is now fighting back.


That's it Hamas, launch 47 rockets whilst your enemy is observing a ceasefire and not attacking you . Way to go Hamas, way to go .

Its Hamas not Palestine, that has rejected the ceasefire.

Hamas is the majority party in the Palestinian Parliament and therefore represent the Palestinian people in the world's eyes.

Whats point of a ceasefire now,

Google will probably give you a good definition of what a ceasefire normally hopes to achieve .
The point of a ceasefire is generally that both sides agree to stop attacking each other for a while. This allows time for peaceful citizens to escape, medical supplies to be brought in, and the leaders of both sides to grow up & get around a table.

Hamas have not been told the terms of the ceasefire and refused to accept or decline it.

That's not what the news websites say:

Sami Abu Zuhri, a senior official with the Palestinian militant group, spoke moments after Israel accepted the offer. He said: 'This proposal is not acceptable.'

The al-Qassam Brigades, the armed wing of Hamas, added that it had not officially received the text of the agreement but said excerpts the group had seen showed it was 'an initiative of kneeling and submission'. 'Our battle with the enemy continues and will increase in ferocity and intensity,' it said.​

I don't blame them

The Egyptian plan had called for hostilities to end this morning, followed by negotiations on easing the border blockade of Gaza. It called for a ceasefire to begin within 12 hours of 'unconditional acceptance' by the sides, followed by the opening of Gaza's border crossings and talks in Cairo within two days. What's not to like about that?

do they really think that Israel will stick to a ceasefire?

Israel did. For six hours. During which time there were 47 rockets launched from Gaza.

 

[dirtychinchilla]

If I'm wrong, I apologies. That was what was reported on Sky News. Having said that, the quote you've provided does say that they hadn't received the terms. If the terms where that they bend over for Israel, then I'm not surprised they'd not accept it. It would be great it the ceasefire would actually mean peace, but the chances are that with Israel's "superior" standing in the world community, they'd receive the most benefit. I may be wrong, though.

Israel stuck to a ceasefire that only they'd agreed to...now they're going nuts again. Very few of the rockets that Hamas launch actually reach israel anyway, with the Iron Defence (or whatever it's called), and Hamas must not that. Not that I agree with what they're doing, but maybe they're just fed up of being constantly ****ed by Israel and the west.

 

[ak22]

What were the terms of the ceasefire?

 

[Castiel]

I assume this is the same Egyptian government that is anti-Hamas...any ceasefire should be agreed by the two combatants..great if Egypt can broker a deal as a third party, but they cannot agree on behalf of Hamas, no more than they can agree on behalf of Israel.

I wouldn't accept a ceasefire based on terms I did not know or negotiate either.

 

[elJarmen]

It's funny how people are bashing the Palestinians for not accepting the terms of the ceasefire. It's because it calls for the total disarm of weapons in Gaza (basic rockets, at worst) while Israel gets to keep all their 21st century weaponry (F16, Mirkava tanks, and Nuclear weapons at worst..), so they could continue annihilating Gaza at whatever future date they choose to break the ceasefire again.

 

[ak22]

Whilst Lieberman the Foreign Minister tells the press:

"Israel must go all the way,” said the Foreign Minister. “A ceasefire is a tacit agreement that [will allow] Hamas [to] continue to build up its power.” He continued, “All the diplomatic formulations are, in this case, hurtful. … A full takeover of the Gaza Strip is Israel’s only course forward.