4k VS 1440p for gaming

Battlefield 4 at Ultra settings with 200% scaling when running 1080p (which I believe puts it at 4k?) wasn't the smoothest experience with my AMD R9 290x.

So I am inclined to agree.
 
There's also the fact that the cheap 4k panels are cheap fr a reason - sacrificing on image quality in order to get them out.

I realise with a lot of gamers these days they care more about frames or smoothness compared to IQ, but still.
 
Tephnos said:
There's also the fact that the cheap 4k panels are cheap fr a reason - sacrificing on image quality in order to get them out.

I realise with a lot of gamers these days they care more about frames or smoothness compared to IQ, but still.
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How is nice flattish greyscale, flat 2.2 gamma and colours that are very accurate compromising image quality. Apart from some very slight tn issues viewed head on but without any clouding or IPS glow i fail to see how for gaming they are anything but spot on. I would not pay for overpriced 4k IPS after using one of these. Used IPS before but now don't really care. These TN panels are a bargain for such new tech and more money to spend on the graphics power to run it.
 
MjFrosty said:
1 GPU powering 4K is a pretty horrific experience more often than not actually. Obviously playable is a subjective term, but 2 to three cards minimum for an acceptable experience.
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Really depends on the game and the GPU used. An overclocked GTX780 can play some games at 60fps. An overclocked Titan black can run watch dogs at max settings with the final version of theworst mod and run at above 30fps without AA using ultra textures.
 
VEGACORTEZ said:
How is nice flattish greyscale, flat 2.2 gamma and colours that are very accurate compromising image quality. Apart from some very slight tn issues viewed head on but without any clouding or IPS glow i fail to see how for gaming they are anything but spot on. I would not pay for overpriced 4k IPS after using one of these. Used IPS before but now don't really care. These TN panels are a bargain for such new tech and more money to spend on the graphics power to run it.
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They're far from spot on. A lot of bleed issues and DP1.2 cables supplied aren't pushing the bandwidth required. Better off waiting for DP1.3 panels.

I've had three of them, and IMO they just aren't ready.

It does depend on the game, but the titles that will run maximum detail at 60fps on a single Kepler card are few and far between.
 
MjFrosty said:
They're far from spot on. A lot of bleed issues and DP1.2 cables supplied aren't pushing the bandwidth required. Better off waiting for DP1.3 panels.

I've had three of them, and IMO they just aren't ready.

It does depend on the game, but the titles that will run maximum detail at 60fps on a single Kepler card are few and far between.
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Sorry to hear about your bad luck with 4k panels. I have had no issues with my displayport cables or SLI bridges or any issue at all really. So it's not really an issue for lot's of people. If by bleed issues you mean backlight bleed then as we know any panel of any type can have that, pot luck i guess. It's a shame your horrendous bad luck has spoilt your 4k experiences. Hopefully when you decide to go 4k again in the future it will work out better.
 
VEGACORTEZ said:
Sorry to hear about your bad luck with 4k panels. I have had no issues with my displayport cables or SLI bridges or any issue at all really. So it's not really an issue for lot's of people. If by bleed issues you mean backlight bleed then as we know any panel of any type can have that, pot luck i guess. It's a shame your horrendous bad luck has spoilt your 4k experiences. Hopefully when you decide to go 4k again in the future it will work out better.
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It's not bad luck. I'm obviously not as easily pleased as you. Seeing as you're happy with one GPU at double the pixel density of 1080p that comes as no surprise I suppose. There are many users who feel the same. I also like how you listed other problems that people are experiencing without me even mentioning them lol.
 
Going to have to agree with Mr Frosty here.

Had 3 x Asus 4K monitors - all suffered the same loss of signal and popping noise. For me they were rushed out IMO.

Another problem I found was finding a decent DPI setting to control the mouse for gaming. (mainly BF4)

Now to one card running 4K - yes it can be done.

I tried with a Titan and also a 780 - neither gave a decent playable experience.

Tried lowering setting to achieve a good playable experience - result - Fail

I know some find gaming at 30-40fps exceptable, for me that just wasn't enough.

Plus, if you read any of the reviews - most recommended 2 high end cards for a good experience.
 
MjFrosty said:
It's not bad luck. I'm obviously not as easily pleased as you. Seeing as you're happy with one GPU at double the pixel density of 1080p that comes as no surprise I suppose. There are many users who feel the same. I also like how you listed other problems that people are experiencing without me even mentioning them lol.
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Wow! No need to be so hostile. By the way i have more than 1 gpu. I have 3 titan blacks in my current system so am capable of driving 4k with ease, i was merely pointing out that 1 gpu can give reasonable frame rates. As the original poster wanted opinions i guess he would like to hear that 4k can run without issue. There are plenty of happy samsung owners. I guess it's up to him what kinds of fps against cost he is willing to go with.
 
VEGACORTEZ said:
Wow! No need to be so hostile. By the way i have more than 1 gpu. I have 3 titan blacks in my current system so am capable of driving 4k with ease, i was merely pointing out that 1 gpu can give reasonable frame rates. As the original poster wanted opinions i guess he would like to hear that 4k can run without issue. There are plenty of happy samsung owners. I guess it's up to him what kinds of fps against cost he is willing to go with.
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No hostility, but I don't see how you can just as good as recommend that one GPU is sufficient. I suppose it also depends on what games you've tried yourself, but as Whyscotty has echoed it's just not an acceptable experience. Why spend that much to have the extra pixels and sell yourself short by not being able to achieve acceptable frame rates.
 
MjFrosty said:
No hostility, but I don't see how you can just as good as recommend that one GPU is sufficient. I suppose it also depends on what games you've tried yourself, but as Whyscotty has echoed it's just not an acceptable experience. Why spend that much to have the extra pixels and sell yourself short by not being able to achieve acceptable frame rates.
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Some people find 40ish fps okay i suppose and g-sync would help with that. But agreed that for max settings and 60fps 2 gpus are needed, unless it's crysis 3 then that system taxer needs all three of my gpu's for 60fps max settings.

It's about personal preference i guess. I for instance have no need for higher than 60hz as long as input lag is good, but others can't abide any less than 120hz. Some may like high res images with less fps etc, at least as pc gamers we have all these choices to suit our own preferences.:)
 
I've just run the Tomb Raider benchmark and FRAPS says I'm mostly in the 50s with dips into the 40s, average ~53 fps, with the settings below:

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Enabling TressFX produces a hit of 15+ fps.

This is with a single 3 GB 780Ti.
 
have you guys seen the video review of someone using 3 titans on a 4k display and it was having issues pulling 30fps. as many of you have said gfx need to catch up or just learn to play in lower res?
 
Single heavily overclocked 780 and I have more issues with running out of VRAM than core performance really aslong as I'm sparing with the AA and occasionally turn down 1-2 other settings slightly if they hit the fillrates hard.

I'd need 2-3 cards to get back to the kind of performance I'm used to/more comfortable with but rarely drops below playable framerates unless I do something stupid.
 
Quartz said:
I've just run the Tomb Raider benchmark and FRAPS says I'm mostly in the 50s with dips into the 40s, average ~53 fps, with the settings below:

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Enabling TressFX produces a hit of 15+ fps.

This is with a single 3 GB 780Ti.
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Not really a surprise with 0 AA applied. I'm not sure what you are trying to prove?

Anyone who says they play the latest AAA titles on a 4K screen with a single GPU "maxed out" is either lying or does not know what "maxed out" means.
 
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