Coilwhine!! :(

[Nines11]

But, 970 is top end mate. Not the fastest. But top end.

Its low power for what it is...........but still seriously meaty. if you think otherwise then you are wrong.

Simple.

The 670 was top end, the 770 was nearly top end, your point is? If i stuck a 290 in it wouldnt whine and that is top end, it also draws WAY more power, your point is void...

Youre missing the point, some of the 970s are dodgy, thats the only facts so far.

Im not here to play silly games with you because you had a dodgy PSU and replacing it fixed it. Im here to see what i can get done about sorting this card out.

 

[Jinjur]

The 670 was top end, the 770 was nearly top end, your point is? If i stuck a 290 in it wouldnt whine and that is top end, it also draws WAY more power, your point is void...

Youre missing the point, some of the 970s are dodgy, thats the only facts so far.

Im not here to play silly games with you because you had a dodgy PSU and replacing it fixed it. Im here to see what i can get done about sorting this card out.

lol.......lovely.....good luck with that.

I am just saying, if you send it in and the guys test it with a proper PSU and it doesn't whine. After a week, you will have the same card back in your lap.

Get off your high horse, wind your neck in and even if that was the case, you might stand a chance from being pleasant.

J

 

[tommybhoy]

Wow, wind it in a bit?

No need for adding to Nines woes, at the end of the day the guy simply wants a product of satisfactory quality.

http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-970/specifications

Nothing there stating you need to purchase a new Gold rated PSU.

There is obviously a problem when...

A major worry for any enthusiast is operational noise under load. We have used this knowledge to reduce coil whine by using higher quality components and also using glue to attach the inductors to the PCB to help reduce electrical vibrations which help reduce whine.

- OcUK Zero Coil Whine guarantee*

- Inductors placed in higher quality containers and glued to PCB to reduce coil whine

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-010-GX

 

[Nines11]

lol.......lovely.....good luck with that.

I am just saying, if you send it in and the guys test it with a proper PSU and it doesn't whine. After a week, you will have the same card back in your lap.

Get off your high horse, wind your neck in and even if that was the case, you might stand a chance from being pleasant.

J

Who is this guy? :S are you here to troll or something? Youve just been proven wrong with everything youve said.

Your PSU was faulty, mine is not. Now go wind your neck in... id be the first to admit it if my PSU was faulty, its not the best but its not faulty and plenty of people are running 970s with corsair PSUs whine free.

Do us both a favour and dont bother replying, everything youve said is nonsense.

 

[Nines11]

Wow, wind it in a bit?

No need for adding to Nines woes, at the end of the day the guy simply wants a product of satisfactory quality.

http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-970/specifications

Nothing there stating you need to purchase a new Gold rated PSU.

There is obviously a problem when...







http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-010-GX

Thanks for that, this guy is soo annoying!

Exactly, i see nowhere telling me i need this or that PSU to be coilwhine free!

Facts remain, some 970s whine!

 

[Jinjur]

Who is this guy? :S are you here to troll or something? Youve just been proven wrong with everything youve said.

Your PSU was faulty, mine is not. Now go wind your neck in... id be the first to admit it if my PSU was faulty, its not the best but its not faulty and plenty of people are running 970s with corsair PSUs whine free.

Do us both a favour and dont bother replying, everything youve said is nonsense.

LOL!

Seriously.

Calm down princess and buy an EVGA PSU.

 

[BluD]

Some cards are just noisey, most people have headphones or speakers on when theyre playing games so they dont notice it. I play with sound off a lot and it would really bother me but luckily vsync holding the fps to 60 cures mine.

Btw Jinjur i just swapped from a enermax 1kw to a EVGA 850w and my card whines as loud as ever . Not sure suggesting he needs a new PSU every other post will help.

 

[tommybhoy]

^
Exactly.

Not helping Jinjur and the 970 requirements do not state purchase a Evga/SF Gold/Platinum or anything else, I'm under no illusion a tacky psu is sufficient but the cheaper 970 components used are the cause.

@Nines11,

Tried using two seperate pci-e cables from your psu instead of a single double headed pci-e cable?

 

[guitaristanime]

Send the card back to us, we will test it, if it whines on our rig, we shall replace it, send it out to you and refund your shipping.

But Corsair Bronze PSU is not high-end and several users across the world are reporting whine issues with their PSU's.

I've said it before, you don't buy a Ferrari and run it on super market unleaded, it would run like a bag of nails.

A high-end VGA card is no different, they want a good clean power source.

Specifically the Corsair CX750 aswell. It's a great PSU other than this issue.

 

[Stanners]

Electronic components react different at different frequencies and power usage, just because it is lower does not mean it will not react in a negative way. Harmonic distortion can effect any power level that is modulated.


This is not to say you do not have a faulty card!

 

[Relentless81]

I have a seasonic x series that's a good few years old now and its powered at least 3 nvidia cards inc my currently installed since release gigabyte g1, coil whine has never been an issue but maybe I've just been lucky.

Personally I don't see why this guy is getting grief when all he wants is a non faulty product, all he needs to do is either test it in another rig with better psu or send it back for testing and take a few days without a pc on the chin, if it still whines you'll get it replaced, if it doesn't either deal with the noise or get a new psu

Inconvenient yes but that's why we use pcs to game, worth it for the end result

 

[David Bisset]

The problem is that there are several factors.

One of them is certain combos of PSU and GPU whine (regardless of where the noise itself comes from, swapping one or the other may resolve the issue) due to the frequencies involved, nothing specifically to do with load (so running a higher-power GPU previously doesn't mean it's not involving your PSU)
Yes, you shouldn't have to replace your PSU, but sometimes this is the easiest way. Higher-quality (not power) PSUs tend to have less frequent issues with graphics cards whining. Some graphics cards also have less frequent issues, the 970 seems to be a fairly bad one for it. If you want to stick with a 970 it may be worth considering changing PSU or paying extra for a glued/otherwise modified one to reduce the chances.

Another complicating factor is that coil whine (to an unspecified level) is not viewed as a fault by most manufacturers so he already has a non-faulty part by that standard. I'd personally not be happy, but it's worth remembering when saying 'all he wants is a non-faulty product'.

Is it fair that we play the lottery every time we buy computing equipment? No, but that is what we have. OCUK have offered to see if they can repro the whine, sounds reasonable to me, but he isn't happy with the delay. Unfortunately at the moment we only have his word that it is certainly the card that is faulty rather than the specific combo of the card and his PSU so I can't see what else can be done apart from test. Jinjur may be being overly assertive, but his situation looked very, very similar so I can see why he thinks his resolution is appropriate - apparently working PSU, new card, card whines, replacement PSU fixes it. Of course, if the OPs card is faulty then this wouldn't help at all!

I've lost track of my point, or even if I ever had a point. I think it may have been 'whine is complicated, I hope it all gets sorted but that resolution may not be as simple as another 970 of the same make/model, though hopefully it will be'

 

[Jinjur]

^ Yeah!

Feel free to delete again Rilot............

J

 

[Josh]

Ok this is getting silly now,

Yes OP doesn't have a great PSU but it is adequate for the 970, I had the CX600M which ran a GTX 780 SC fine, this card pulls more power than a 970.

What the OP does have is some form of Whine, which OP believe is from his GPU. Instead of constantly going on about other components - we need to test what could feeibly be the root cause, the GPU.

If that comes back from OcUK as non fault, then we can look at the PSU.

Lets not derail the thread anymore with pointless, "get a new PSU" talk until the card has been tested.

OP yes the RMA bit is a ballache but it is the best way to say which component is at fault.

Hope is turns out ok OP. If it is the GPU I'm sure OcUK will get it sorted for you, a £300 GPU shouldn't be whining. Regardless if it is a "coil whine reduced" product or a normal 970.

The whole coil whine reducing thing is crap, the people who build the GPU's (not OcUK the likes of MSI, EVGA) shouldn't be putting products on the market that have defaults.

 

[wazza300]

thing is it can be one of three things that heighten or lessen coil whine

gpu/psu/motherboard

either one of those can produce the sound more or less so its difficult to track down,they supposed to use solid caps that don't make any noise but I still say they do

 

[Nines11]

Some cards are just noisey, most people have headphones or speakers on when theyre playing games so they dont notice it. I play with sound off a lot and it would really bother me but luckily vsync holding the fps to 60 cures mine.

Btw Jinjur i just swapped from a enermax 1kw to a EVGA 850w and my card whines as loud as ever . Not sure suggesting he needs a new PSU every other post will help.

Thanks for that, see point proved, PSU doesnt always cure it, specially if the PSU is NOT faulty, unlike someones...

I wont be buying a new PSU, i know this one is fine, its still in warranty anyway and i could get a new one but its fine.

Alls i want is a replacement card, 5 days plus postage delays is a nightmare, id rather refund and buy elsewhere tbh.

 

[Jinjur]

^yeah!

IMO the thread isn't silly until someone posts a picture of a peacock in a 3 piece suit. Just IMO of course.

The ONLY issue here.....is the OP's inability to deal with one week sans graphics card which is special. "5 days plus postage delay" is this really happening?

If he thinks it is faulty. And he is obviously some kind of higher power when it comes to PSU/GPU combinations........then he should just RMA it and wait.......like....everyone....else.

Its simple. Real simple.

If 1 week means you either get a super-special non defective card or a slice of humble pie....that's not a bad price to pay, eh?

I don't know exactly what else you want here? Perhaps OCUK could send you all the cards they have until you find one you are happy with.....would that do?

In fact, I could send you mine*......wouldn't want you to have a week-long-outage buddy

*for illustration purposes only I am afraid

J

 

[Nines11]

Guys im 100% positive the whine is from the GPU, i would bet my life on it, im not that sure!

I can hear it as soon as it comes under load. Ive put my ear to the PSU and card and like i say they are miles apart and the PSU doesnt make a peep or id RMA it to Corsair asap.

Exactly its nearly £300 for a faulty product, it doesnt say it whines on the box or anything. You cant say " all graphics cards whine" because no they just dont at all or something would have been done about it years ago, if it whines its dodgy, its a simple as that.

If it whined and wasnt loud and i couldnt hear it i wouldnt mind, but go have a listen to that clip i uploaded, it really is like a pig squealing for its life!

 

[Nines11]

^yeah!

IMO the thread isn't silly until someone posts a picture of a peacock in a 3 piece suit. Just IMO of course.

The ONLY issue here.....is the OP's inability to deal with one week sans graphics card which is special. "5 days plus postage delay" is this really happening?

If he thinks it is faulty. And he is obviously some kind of higher power when it comes to PSU/GPU combinations........then he should just RMA it and wait.......like....everyone....else.

Its simple. Real simple.

If 1 week means you either get a super-special non defective card or a slice of humble pie....that's not a bad price to pay, eh?

I don't know exactly what else you want here? Perhaps OCUK could send you all the cards they have until you find one you are happy with.....would that do?

In fact, I could send you mine*......wouldn't want you to have a week-long-outage buddy

*for illustration purposes only I am afraid

J

Why you still here if you just wanna derail the thread? You have a nice working silent 970 go play some games...

If i send it back tomorrow i wont get a new card until the 12th or maybe the 16th! I am testing the card in 2 other PCs, if it still whines i want a new card sent out and this one collected or a refund, im not buying a new PSU!

 

[Jinjur]

Why you still here if you just wanna derail the thread? You have a nice working silent 970 go play some games...

If i send it back tomorrow i wont get a new card until the 12th or maybe the 16th! I am testing the card in 2 other PCs, if it still whines i want a new card sent out and this one collected or a refund, im not buying a new PSU!

I just want to make sure you are ok buddy, you seem stressed.