ISIS and Islamic militants - discussion

Jordan has executed two prisoners, including the woman previously the subject of a potential prisoner exchange deal for the murdered pilot.

I doubt that will have any other effect than appease an angry population which I am sure it is designed to do. It certainly won't make a jot of difference on what the nutters are doing and will impact on our ability to extradite people to that country.

The Middle East is a nasty part of the world and tbh I think we should be more worried about making sure people who go over there don't come back into this country and to ensure the damage does not enter this country. If the local population want to kill each other then I fail to see how that is any different to the rest of history. The region has always been populated by savages and most likely always will.
 
From the BBC
"Jordan executes convicted jihadists after pilot's death"

At least someone has a back bone.
 
Actually I did point out where you have a bigoted view... right in the same post where I call it your prejudiced agenda.

For every violent example, there are many, many more non-violent examples. Still the question stands though - what stance are you (and anyone else demanding Islam take a stance) expecting them to take?

You're drawing a false dichotomy, and claim I'm the one arguing for arguing's sake.

Well yes. I see this very much as a Muslim problem because the ones doing the fighting are mostly children of other Muslims and listening to Muslim scholars. From my perspective its 'our' problem not theirs. And again I'm not quite sure how I am a bigoted Muslim with a prejudiced agenda. And to be absolutely clear, I'm not blaming the religion which is what you perhaps think I am doing.

Education is one aspect of it too.

Anyway. Moving on. I still don't see why so many Muslims are attracted to ISIS.
 
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We should boycott any publication publishing any of their actions. Once they realise they're preaching to the deaf, they might lose interest. As it is now, every move they make is all over the front pages, that's exactly what they want.
 
From the BBC
"Jordan executes convicted jihadists after pilot's death"

At least someone has a back bone.

What does it achieve though?

"Oh look, we can also kill prisoners"

It seems like the behaviour you'd expect from simpletons - can't do any better, don't know any better, won't try to be any better - just kill kill kill.
 
What does it achieve though?

"Oh look, we can also kill prisoners"

It seems like the behaviour you'd expect from simpletons - can't do any better, don't know any better, won't try to be any better - just kill kill kill.

They executed two people who have been tried through their court system and have been sat on death row for quite a few years now, it's not the same even remotely to what IS did. All that has happened, is that this has sped up their execution date. They also executed them in one of the most humane ways there is, they didn't burn them to death, or pin them down and saw their heads off with a knife.
 
They executed two people who have been tried through their court system and have been sat on death row for quite a few years now, it's not the same even remotely to what IS did. All that has happened, is that this has sped up their execution date. They also executed them in one of the most humane ways there is, they didn't burn them to death, or pin them down and saw their heads off with a knife.

So what?

It won't make a blind bit of difference, whether it's right or wrong, simply executing somebody out of sour grapes, in reaction to a murder - is utterly futile.
 
So as long as they are fighting for a religious ideal, it is the fault of the religion. Yet if someone fights for a political ideal, it's nothing to do with that ideal. .

You can justify a political stance using religion,
It doesn't work the other way around.
That appears to be the difference ?
 
The Middle East is a nasty part of the world and tbh I think we should be more worried about making sure people who go over there don't come back into this country and to ensure the damage does not enter this country.

Well really the problem is already here, the UK muslim population didn't suddenly appear from nice houses in Sussex, they all came from that nasty part of the world and a good proportion still think exactly like those people. That islam must dominate all other forms of government. (thanks liberals).

Cameron pretending that if he sucks up to them enough then they won't be any more Woolwich murders is just idiotic, as is Labour hoping that by employing a few more border guards is going to make a jot of difference, when the real and future problem is being bred in universities and prisons right now.

We moan about a few dodgy looking people hanging around Calais when we've just exported 500 jihadis from our own country. Talk about looking the wrong ****ing way...:rolleyes:
 
So what?

It won't make a blind bit of difference, whether it's right or wrong, simply executing somebody out of sour grapes, in reaction to a murder - is utterly futile.

To add to this, other Muslims may see this as another corrupt Muslim government supporting the West.
 
Islam is at war with the civilised world, no doubt.

Oh dear, 2 billion Muslims in the world but because a miniscule fraction behave badly you make mindless generalisations like this, it's the kind of simpleton sensationalist headline you'd expect to read in the Daily Mail.
 
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