ISIS and Islamic militants - discussion

Skunkworks said:
Exactly.

I've already heard reports of the peshmerga doing their own beheadings of people they suspect are ISIS. Better to stay right out of that cluster**** of a place until it grows up.
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Notice how Kurdistan is growing already? that's another cluster **** waiting to happen - a weak Iraq government (which is only weak from infighting and years of being bombed by the usa - Hussein might have been as asshat but at least he kept the raving lunatics under some sort of control.

and remember - he was a friend of the USA who green lighted the gassing of iran

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xzucc_saddam-hussein-and-rumsfeld-shake-h_people

and even though Iran also had chemical weapons- they didn't actually retaliate in kind
 
Dj_Jestar said:
So it was an option. If it wasn't an option - what were they voting on? Also, they can always call another vote to pull out. You really, really aren't comprehending this, are you? We have options. We can, as you say, decide to hoist the black flag ourselves. It's an option. Options, options, options a plenty!
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Every stupid idea you can think of is not an option.

Ja, just like our decisive intervention with Iraq ended things quickly, eh?

Hang on... that was what started this IS mess!
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Your way drags out the war even longer.
 
Skunkworks said:
Exactly.

I've already heard reports of the peshmerga doing their own beheadings of people they suspect are ISIS. Better to stay right out of that cluster**** of a place until it grows up.
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every major nation has vast stores of chemical weapons we all keep saying we should dispose off......

two birds, all i'm saying.
 
zoomee said:
REALLY glad this thread has been renamed. A single area for the islamaphobic bigots to chant away to themselves and be directed to. Awesome sauce.

As you were chaps. :)
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We'll have to keep chanting since the members of this Paedophile death-cult have no interest in criticising the very real dangers it poses to society.

As you were.

Dj_Jestar said:
Nope. Next.
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Yup. Next.
 
I personally believe that there will be three great enemies in the century to come: Russia, China and Islam... with Russia and China being by far the easiest to deal with.

I'm so glad I live in a country where they don't pander to religious minorities, and where Muslims don't feel that they can take the pee and begin the terraforming process like they do in other Western countries.
 
John40 said:
What I don't understand is what sort of people listen to his stupid immature ranting, toddlers have more common sense.

The bloke is an utter utter ****.
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:rolleyes:

He makes far more sense than all the posts I've read of yours!
Nice fair attack on him, Russell doesn't avoid tax! you know you're grasping at straws when the best you can do is blaim someone for the actions of another (his landlord is allegedly avoiding tax (like a large percentage of landlords if we are being fair ;) )

Why not debunk what his saying rather than attack him personally ?? Ohhh that's right it's because what his saying is true and accurate, looks like you're the one with no common sense or intelligence tbh !!
 
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Richdog said:
I personally believe that there will be three great enemies in the century to come: Russia, China and Islam... with Russia and China being by far the easiest to deal with.

I'm so glad I live in a country where they don't pander to religious minorities, and where Muslims don't feel that they can take the pee and begin the terraforming process like they do in other Western countries.
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fighting Islam will be the toughest, seeing that we have Idiots defending the death-cult who don't even belong to it...

probably subjugating early, thinking they'll be spared... ;) spineless wimps.
 
China could become a powerful ally if dealt with properly, they are seduced by western capitalism and could lead to a change in politics within 50 years

Also they have given Muslims a pretty bloodly nose when messed with on several occasions (most don't get reported in the west)
 
Richdog said:
I personally believe that there will be three great enemies in the century to come: Russia, China and Islam... with Russia and China being by far the easiest to deal with.
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The smart thing for the UK/EU to do was to enrol Russia and China into a World Defence Alliance and let them do the "heavy lifting" in the global offensive against Islamic fundamentalism.
 
Above&Beyond said:
Every stupid idea you can think of is not an option.
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Hmm..

The Dictionary said:
option

op·tion (ŏp′shən)
n.
  1. The act of choosing; choice: Her option was to quit school and start her own business.
  2. The power or freedom to choose: We have the option of driving or taking the train.
    • The right, usually obtained for a fee, to buy or sell an asset within a specified time at a set price.
    • A contract or financial instrument granting such a right: a stock option.
    • The right to make a movie adaptation of a literary work or play: a movie studio that purchased an option on a book.
    • Baseball The right of a major-league team to transfer a player to a minor-league team while being able to recall the player within a specified period.
  4. Something chosen or available as a choice. See Synonyms at choice.
  5. An item or feature that may be chosen to replace or enhance standard equipment, as in a car.
  6. Football An offensive play in which a back, usually the quarterback, decides during the play whether to run with the ball, throw a pass, or make a lateral, depending on the actions of the defense.
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Nope, you're wrong.

Above&Beyond said:
Your way drags out the war even longer.
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Not getting directly involved in the war will see us directly involved in a dragged out war, you say?
 
Tefal said:
the last two are referring to quotes from David Cameron and the arch bishop of Canterbury.

and are fairly accurate.

the rest you'd have to Google for the stats.

the unrecognizable as British is subjective but it is fairly common knowledge that immigrant communities group together and have done for a very long time, it seems odd you'd pick that.
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Fairly common knowledge.. as in easy to recognise.. so not unrecognisable then? Britain has had immigration for centuries. Just look at our favourite foods to see something from everywhere around the world.

It seems odd you'd miss that.
 
Tefal said:
whop then start to take over and gain power and become another group just like ISIS so we pick another local group to support and on and on it goes just like it has before.
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Like before when we invaded first hand, multiple times, all the way back to the empire years, yes.
 
Terminal_Boy said:
The smart thing for the UK/EU to do was to enrol Russia and China into a World Defence Alliance and let them do the "heavy lifting" in the global offensive against Islamic fundamentalism.
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Possibly.

Its a shame that our policy is directly against them then :p

Russia supports the gulf regions that we do not, China want Pakistan to be a counterbalence to India in Asia, we want India to be a counterbalence to China in Asia.
 
Dj_Jestar said:
Hmm..

Nope, you're wrong.
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We have voted to take action and are taking action, so no, doing nothing is not an option. You've got the option of building a time machine and going back to change it if you want?

Not getting directly involved in the war will see us directly involved in a dragged out war, you say?
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So instead of using highly trained soldiers and equipment we have already we try to train and arm the right rebels to fight a proxy war? Sounds like a great plan. Wait, what happens if they use the weapons against us or we train the wrong people and they come back in a few years against us? Think I've read that working out poorly for the west before somewhere.
 
Above&Beyond said:
We have voted to take action and are taking action, so no, doing nothing is not an option. You've got the option of building a time machine and going back to change it if you want?
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We have the option of pulling back. It's an option. Option. Geddit? Options.



Above&Beyond said:
So instead of using highly trained soldiers and equipment we have already we try to train and arm the right rebels to fight a proxy war? Sounds like a great plan. Wait, what happens if they use the weapons against us or we train the wrong people and they come back in a few years against us? Think I've read that working out poorly for the west before somewhere.
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Local forces need to stabilise. They will not do this with foreign powers invading all the time. "Great plan" indeed.
 
Also, just because I'm bored of waiting for the conversation to inevitably end up there, you are pitching the "can't trust the locals" card.

Are you proposing we (the west) stay there for eternity? That's not going to happen. Even if we do permanently station soldiers there, or even just flat out conquer the land, we'll need to withdraw eventually - this is very expensive business and impossible to perpetuate. What do you think will happen when we inevitably pull out? There's a huge clue here.. we've already done this several times. IS is the result.
 
Dj_Jestar said:
Fairly common knowledge.. as in easy to recognise.. so not unrecognisable then? Britain has had immigration for centuries. Just look at our favourite foods to see something from everywhere around the world.

It seems odd you'd miss that.
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At 250,000 per year? Show me the stats
 
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