Poll: General election voting round 5 (final one)

[Mr Jack]

Indeed, and you will tell us again how magic growth would have made us accelerate faster than any other country on the planet.

A normal recovery would have done just fine. Austerity in the face of a deep recession is so economically illiterate it really isn't worth wasting breath on.

With us vastly overspending and refusing to admit to it under Ed, a point Ed laboured last week, saying that labour had NOT overspent!

Debt-to-GDP was lower pre-recession than it was in 1997 when New Labour came to power. They did, in my view, mildly undertax for their spending in 2006-8 but it was by a small amount, we're talking maybe 1% of GDP at most.

Ed's answer is now to overspend, but call it capital expenditure, and not label and lump it in with the rest of the spending, so it is over spending under a radically different name, but the same people will end up paying the same debt interest off.

Ed's answer is to underspend, but not by as much as the Tories. Unfortunately not even Labour are offering sensible spending plans now, and after Osborne's incompetence has driven the debt up so much for so little gain there's a lot less room to actually sort the problem than there was in 2010.

 

[Mr Jack]

My god, did anyone see this piece of stone Milliband wheeled out??

Can't be real, It's beyond parody, this must be his Kinnock moment where he's so sure he's going to to win he does something this brazen.

It's just bonkers. What were they thinking?

 

[gobbo]

My god, did anyone see this piece of stone Milliband wheeled out??

Can't be real, It's beyond parody, this must be his Kinnock moment where he's so sure he's going to to win he does something this brazen.

It sounds like a rejected script idea from The Thick Of It!

 

[malted]

The Ed stone is awesome great idea has my vote now because of it.

 

[gobbo]

Some nice truth bombs in that vid.

So are you both saying you'd simply ban all Muslims from entering the UK?

I could only stomach about 30 seconds before switching it off, what a vile man. Most of the points he raises you could say about any major religion

 

[Monkeynut]

Is it just me who doesn't see a problem with the stone tablet thing? It's just marketing.

 

[malted]

Is it just me who doesn't see a problem with the stone tablet thing? It's just marketing.

Only the people from other parties will tell you It's bad I think It's a great idea.

It's not as bad as Camerons big society he went on about last election has that gone

 

[Sankari]

Fake letters purporting to be from the SNP being sent out in Glasgow claiming the SNP have enough support to win and as such, the receiver should vote Tory.

FAKE SNP Letter

If this is being sent out by Labour then it is surely a new low.

Why would Labour send out a fake letter encouraging people to vote Tory?

Income taxes are not avoidable, consumption taxes are.

So you've found a way to completely avoid VAT? Tell me more!

 

[fez]

The tablet is just pathetic. Its even sadder if that convinces even a single person to vote labour. Its completely meaningless and a sad representation of politics that this is even something a serious party would do.

How is this a good idea in any way, shape or form. I would love to hear what labour supporters think is good about it.

 

[Tunney]

How is this a good idea in any way, shape or form. I would love to hear what labour supporters think is good about it.

I think it's supposed to be a contrast to the Conservatives aggressively deleting unfulfilled pledges from their website.

I guess it's one way of getting people to read Labour's pledges. They should have expected this ridicule though.

 

[kindai]

I think it's supposed to be a contrast to the Conservatives aggressively deleting unfulfilled pledges from their website.

I guess it's one way of getting people to read Labour's pledges. They should have expected this ridicule though.

Vague, unspecific pledges carved in stone... the fact they've had it made alone suggests an arrogance which would probably swing a lot of undecided voters the other way...

 

[robgmun]

So are you both saying you'd simply ban all Muslims from entering the UK?

No body said that, not even the bloke in the video

I could only stomach about 30 seconds before switching it off, what a vile man. Most of the points he raises you could say about any major religion

How do you know if you switched off after 30 seconds? That's the problem with people, you can't take alternative points of view because you don't like it, but all that does is shelters you from the whole picture, watch it all again, then come back and we can discuss

 

[ethan]

Vague, unspecific pledges carved in stone... the fact they've had it made alone suggests an arrogance which would probably swing a lot of undecided voters the other way...

About as vague and as gimmicky as a politician who has to pledge a promise in law that could be repealed and lack any punishment for those breaking it, wouldn't you say so?

 

[platypus]

You mean after labours reckless cut from 17.5% 2 years before hand which cost the treasury some 20 billion? (more if I recall)

He's also being somewhat disingenuous since it was a 2.5% raise over the vat rate that we'd been used too for years. However, I'm not sure they can not be trusted to raise it to 22.5%.

 

[platypus]

That is surely highly illegal?

It's also from WingsoverScotland, one of the most biased sources on the internet, so I'd take it with a pinch of salt until a reputable source is seen.

It was also posted by eddiemcgarrigle, probably the most nationalistic, blind and biased poster since Biosalmon's ban. He didn't complain when Salmond lied to parliament with a fake letter, for example, now did he?

 

[scorza]

So are you both saying you'd simply ban all Muslims from entering the UK?

Anti-Islam, not Anti-Muslim.

I could only stomach about 30 seconds before switching it off, what a vile man. Most of the points he raises you could say about any major religion

No you couldn't.

 

[MrMoonX]

Seems so

Thankfully it's looking likely this racist won't be an MP

 

[Mr Jack]

You mean after labours reckless cut from 17.5% 2 years before hand which cost the treasury some 20 billion? (more if I recall)

Reckless? Stimulus cuts and spending were the only sensible way forward and a big reason why Labour had nurtured the beginnings of a rapid and healthy recovery before the coalition promptly crushed it.

 

[Slam62]

I can't stand the Tories, but most people in England seem to like them.

The tragedy is that no other party seems capable of providing a plausible alternative.

Miliband has lost it over the last few days, labour appear to have been complacent over Scotland , lib dems have lost all credibility.

I think labour have to question why they don't get more support in England, have they relied on Scotland for too long.

I hate to say it, but if Cameron gets the most seats he should be prime minister.

 

[Freddie1980]

Why would Labour send out a fake letter encouraging people to vote Tory?!

It doesn't take much working out, if they can get small split in the SNP vote were some SNP voters go Tory that would allow Labour to win in previously safe Labour seats.