Radeon FURY thread

Meladath · 15 Jul 2015 at 21:22

TonyTurbo78 said:
Your kidding me right??? You can't hear any difference when he tabs between gta and desktop? completely different pitch.

No honestly, maybe my speakers aren't good enough to play a sound that high

No idea

EDIT: Rewatched with speakers up full and I can hear it, seems much lower pitched and quieter than the coil whine I have experienced in the past, either that or its the recording... idk

D.P. · 15 Jul 2015 at 21:24

AMDMatt said:
So a hitch now automatically means 4GB is not enough in scenario X?

Never let the truth get in the way.

He's playing at 25 FPS though?

His GTA V 4K video was interesting. He was playing with an unstable overclock (black screens) and he was using x8 reflection MSAA at 4K, again 25-30 FPS.

Still waiting to see an example of playable FPS here Raven.

If he got 25FPS with 1 FuryX then he would get playable FPS with 2 but would still get stutter. The 980Ti would be smooth in SLi at those settings.

nashathedog · 15 Jul 2015 at 21:25

AMDMatt said:
I can feel a video coming on.

Can you share a link to these videos?

Still waiting to see games whereby you can use more than 4GB of HBM with a Fury/Fury X and keep playable FPS.

You're quite capable of doing your own searches if you feel the need to question my point, I said I've seen videos that show the vram usage as being roughly 1 to 2 tenths better on the Fury than on ddr5 cards like the Tx and Ti, From that you can conclude that if videos show games at playable frame rates hitting 5 or 6 gb's of ram then it will use more than the Furies 4gb limit. Then someone else gives you a link to a video with a tech reviewer saying they were able to hit the limit and get negative results from doing so but that's not enough for you, They must be lying and involved in some sort of conspiracy, Right? So no I'm not going to waste my time searching for things for someone who does not wish to listen.

Meladath · 15 Jul 2015 at 21:27

nashathedog said:
You're quite capable of doing your own searches if you feel the need to question my point, I said I've seen videos that show the vram usage as being roughly 1 to 2 tenths better on the Fury than on ddr5 cards like the Tx and Ti, From that you can conclude that if videos show games at playable frame rates hitting 5 or 6 gb's of ram then it will use more than the Furies 4gb limit. Then someone else gives you a link to a video with a tech reviewer saying they were able to hit the limit and get negative results from doing so but that's not enough for you, They must be lying and involved in some sort of conspiracy, Right? So no I'm not going to waste my time searching for things for someone who does not wish to listen.

Just saying, the burden of proof is on the claimant, not the accuser. You can't blame him for not searching if you haven't given him any evidence to back up the point you are trying to make.

It's pretty well observed you CAN make the Fury X (or any other GPU bar the Titan X) hit its VRAM limit, where stuttering occurs, except the situations where these stutters actually occur, are situations that wouldn't happen anyway as the overall framerate is so low it doesn't matter.

LtMatt · 15 Jul 2015 at 21:28

nashathedog said:
You're quite capable of doing your own searches if you feel the need to question my point, I said I've seen videos that show the vram usage as being roughly 1 to 2 tenths better on the Fury than on ddr5 cards like the Tx and Ti, From that you can conclude that if videos show games at playable frame rates hitting 5 or 6 gb's of ram then it will use more than the Furies 4gb limit. Then someone else gives you a link to a video with a tech reviewer saying they were able to hit the limit and get negative results from doing so but that's not enough for you, They must be lying and involved in some sort of conspiracy, Right? So no I'm not going to waste my time searching for things for someone who does not wish to listen.

It would be nice to see some evidence is all, but so far I've not seen anything to the contrary that you can use more than 4GB of video memory and keep playable FPS with one card. (never mind two)

Meladath said:
Just saying, the burden of proof is on the claimant, not the accuser. You can't blame him for not searching if you haven't given him any evidence to back up the point you are trying to make.

It's pretty well observed you CAN make the Fury X (or any other GPU bar the Titan X) hit its VRAM limit, where stuttering occurs, except the situations where these stutters actually occur, are situations that wouldn't happen anyway as the overall framerate is so low it doesn't matter.

I use the cards so i can happily test it and if there's a problem we'll fix it. If it uses more memory than we have available, fair enough.

LtMatt · 15 Jul 2015 at 21:34

AMDMatt said:
No data at all to back it up, what a surprise. 4K video uploading.

I await a 1x980TI user to post a video at 4K using maximum possible settings and keeping playable fps whilst using more than 4GB of memory. (quote from pcper)

It won't happen because it's FUD.

jason-uk · 15 Jul 2015 at 21:34

O dear this is turning into another one of those vram arguments again :rolleyes:

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Actually , gta looks like a good game watching the videos ,,, i might buy that ..

Bonjour · 15 Jul 2015 at 21:37

The standard Fury appears a little overpriced IMO.

Need to knock around £30 off.

mmj_uk · 15 Jul 2015 at 21:38

AMDMatt said:
It would be nice to see some evidence is all, but so far I've not seen anything to the contrary that you can use more than 4GB of video memory and keep playable FPS with one card. (never mind two)

Why ship 390X with 8GB and advertise it as optimised for 4K then?

If you watch all of that guys videos (he has tested both Fury X and 980Ti) and done numerous videos, his overall opinion is that the 980Ti is a much smoother experience.

nashathedog · 15 Jul 2015 at 21:42

Meladath said:
Just saying, the burden of proof is on the claimant, not the accuser. You can't blame him for not searching if you haven't given him any evidence to back up the point you are trying to make.

It's pretty well observed you CAN make the Fury X (or any other GPU bar the Titan X) hit its VRAM limit, where stuttering occurs, except the situations where these stutters actually occur, are situations that wouldn't happen anyway as the overall framerate is so low it doesn't matter.

Let's look at what I said, From what I've seen the Furies improved compression is a tenth or two better than the compression on a TX or Ti, and if games use more than than 5 or 6 gb's of TX/Ti ram I think it is possible to hit the limit and still get playable frame rates and therefore have issues because the ram limit is surpassed. Why does that require a video?

JediFragger · 15 Jul 2015 at 21:44

AMDMatt said:
So a hitch now automatically means 4GB is not enough in scenario X?

Well it's certainly not desirable!! :eek:

LtMatt · 15 Jul 2015 at 21:51

JediFragger said:
Well it's certainly not desirable!!

Will need better proof than that I'm afraid Si. A hitch is not uncommon in a multi gpu setup.

I've never said that the limit cannot be breached, only that the chances of breaching it and keeping playable FPS with one GPU is pretty much nil. The lack of proof forthcoming is testament to that.

The chance of two gpu's breaching the limit is greater, but still it's limited to the odd game that is excessive with a high texture pack ala Mordor. It's not common and aside from that, i can think of any that would do it.

The fact is you'll need three or four gpu's to consistently breach a 4GB limit at 4K and keep playable FPS at the same time. Sure you can do it with 20FPS, but that is not the point I've been making since the start.

I'm sure Kaap will back me up in what I'm saying.

nashathedog · 15 Jul 2015 at 21:52

AMDMatt said:
It would be nice to see some evidence is all, but so far I've not seen anything to the contrary that you can use more than 4GB of video memory and keep playable FPS with one card. (never mind two)

I use the cards so i can happily test it and if there's a problem we'll fix it. If it uses more memory than we have available, fair enough.

If you will do a test how about Advanced Warfare, Gregster did a video where it was using over 6 to 8 gb's of ram on his TX and it was perfectly playable. It'll be interesting to see what the Fury does with such a ram requirement.

Lokken86 · 15 Jul 2015 at 21:54

nashathedog said:
Let's look at what I said, From what I've seen the Furies improved compression is a tenth or two better than the compression on a TX or Ti, and if games use more than than 5 or 6 gb's of TX/Ti ram I think it is possible to hit the limit and still get playable frame rates and therefore have issues because the ram limit is surpassed. Why does that require a video?

And I'm sure I could beat Usain Bolt at the 100m under the right conditions.

LtMatt · 15 Jul 2015 at 21:54

nashathedog said:
If you will do a test how about Advanced Warfare, Gregster did a video where it was using over 6 to 8 gb's of ram on his TX and it was perfectly playable. It'll be interesting to see what the Fury does with such a ram requirement.

I don't have it installed, but it's in my steam library. If you give me the settings I'll give it a go.

RavenXXX2 · 15 Jul 2015 at 21:54

AMDMatt said:

GTA5 at night is less demanding than at day time, less vram used and more fps at night. I notice a fair bit of chugging, game or video?

RavenXXX2 · 15 Jul 2015 at 22:00

SOM tanking on furyx, he says it runs fine on 980ti.

jason-uk · 15 Jul 2015 at 22:01

Hey Matt i've just looked at the shop (overclockers of course )
Is AMD not giving away any free games with the purchase of a fury or fury x cards
Or am i just not seeing it which is a possibility.

TonyTurbo78 · 15 Jul 2015 at 22:02

Was Afterburner not showing the data of your cards working right there Matt? Only 45fps with 4 FuryX seems incredibly low even at 4k.

arc@css · 15 Jul 2015 at 22:03

I like the look of the Asus Strix Fury card. Lovely back plate and overall design appears great.